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Conversation: 088-001

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Start Date: 24-Jan-1972 10:04 AM

End Date: 24-Jan-1972 11:59 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Cohn, Samuel M.Alger, Mark W.Benton, Charles E.Bray, DavidBreese, LawrenceBaldwin, Velma N.Dame, PhilipDerman, Donald A.Etheredge, LynnFischer, C. WilliamFrey, James M.Hunt, WilmerHurley, John F.Haase, Walter W.Laitin, JosephLind, SusanneLoweth, Hugh F.Lutz, Theodore C.Modlin, C. Peter, Jr.MacDonald, PhilipMcOmber, Dale R.Norwood, DouglasRommel, Wilfred H.Sasaki, Wesley K.Schleede, Glenn R.Shiskin, JuliusStubbing, RichardSullivan, ReardonTaft, Daniel H.Torrey, BarbaraTschirigi, James D.Turen, MiltonVeatch, Ellis H.Walker, JoyceKraus, CharlesCarlucci, Frank C., IIIClarke, RaymondKohlberg, William H.Niskanen, William A.Taft, William H., IVTaylor, David P.Shultz, George P.Weinberger, Caspar W. ("Cap")Laffer, Arthur B.Gifford, William L.Perry, Charles R.Ink, Dwight A.Dam, Kenneth W.Rice, Donald B.O'Neill, Paul H.

Recording Device: Cabinet Room

088a.mp3

088b.mp3

088c.mp3

NARA Description:

On January 24, 1972, during the signing of the 1973 Budget Message, President Richard M. Nixon and staff members of the Office of Management and Budget, including Samuel M. Cohn, Mark W. Alger, Charles E. Benton, David Bray, Lawrence Breese, Velma N. Baldwin, Philip Dame, Donald A. Derman, Lynn Etheredge, C. William Fischer, James M. Frey, Wilmer Hunt, John F. Hurley, Walter W. Haase, Joseph Laitin, Susanne Lind, Hugh F. Loweth, Theodore C. Lutz, C. Peter Modlin, Jr., Philip MacDonald, Dale R. McOmber, Douglas Norwood, Wilfred H. Rommel, Wesley K. Sasaki, Glenn R. Schleede, Julius Shiskin, Richard Stubbing, Reardon Sullivan, Daniel H. Taft, Barbara Torrey, James D. Tschirigi, Milton Turen, Ellis H. Veatch, Joyce Walker, Charles Kraus, Frank C. Carlucci, III, and Raymond Clarke; and possibly William H. Kohlberg, William A. Niskanen, William H. Taft, IV, David P. Taylor, George P. Shultz, Caspar W. ("Cap") Weinberger, Arthur B. Laffer, William L. Gifford, Charles R. Perry, Dwight A. Ink, Kenneth W. Dam, Donald B. Rice, and Paul H. O'Neill, met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 10:04 am and 11:59 pm. The Cabinet Room taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 088-001 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 88-1

Date: January 24, 1972
Time: Unknown between 10:04 am and 11:59 pm
Location: Cabinet Room

The following people met: Samuel M. Cohn, Mark W. Alger, Charles E. Benton, David Bray,
Lawrence Breese, Velma N. Baldwin, Philip Dame, Donald A. Derman, Lynn Etheredge, C.
William Fischer, James M. Frey, Wilmer Hunt, John Hurley, Walter W. Haase, Joseph Laitin,
Susanne Lind, Hugh F. Loweth, Theodore C. Lutz, C. Peter Modlin, Jr., Philip McDonald, Dale
R. McOmber, Douglas Norwood, Wilfred H. Rommel, Wesley K. Sasaki, Glenn R. Schleede,
Julius Shiskin, Richard Stubbing, Reardon Sullivan, Daniel H. Taft, Barbara Torrey, James D.
Tschirigi, Milton Turen, Ellis H. Veatch, Joyce Walker, Charles Kraus, Frank C. Carlucci, and
Raymond Clarke. The following may also have been present: William H. Kolberg, William A.
Niskanen, William H. Taft, IV, David P. Taylor, George P. Shultz, Caspar W. (“Cap”)
Weinberger, Arthur B. Laffer, William L. Gifford, Charles R. Perry, Dwight A. Ink, Kenneth W.
Dam, Donald B. Rice, and Paul H. O’Neill


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Non-historical]
[Duration: 47s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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     Preparation for bill-signing ceremony
          -Arrangement of spectators

     [General conversation/Unintelligible]

The President entered at 10:30 am

     Fiscal Year [FY] 1973 budget

     The President’s budgetary policies
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/08)



     Office of Management and Budget [OMB] staff
          -Work

The President left at 10:34 am

     Appreciation of OMB staff

     [General conversation/Unintelligible]

     The President’s schedule

Cohn, et al. left at an unknown time before 11:59 pm