Conversation: 088-002
Prev:  088-001 Next: 088-003Start Date: 26-Jan-1972 7:47 AM
End Date: 26-Jan-1972 10:02 AM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Agnew, Spiro T. (Vice President); Scott, Hugh; Griffin, Robert P.; Cotton, Norris; Allott, Gordon L.; Dominick, Peter H.; Goldwater, Barry M.; Ford, Gerald R.; Arends, Leslie C.; Anderson, John B.; Devine, Samuel L.; Poff, Richard H.; Conable, Barber B., Jr.; Smith, H. Allen; Wilson, Robert C. ("Bob"); Byrnes, John W.; Bow, Frank T.; Dole, Robert J.; Shultz, George P.; Weinberger, Caspar W. ("Cap"); Stein, Herbert; Ehrlichman, John D.; MacGregor, Clark; Timmons, William E.; Cook, Richard K.; Korologos, Thomas C.; Dent, Harry S.; Ziegler, Ronald L.; Ziegler, Ronald L.; Harlow, Bryce N.; Koch, Noel C.; Gifford, William L.; Kissinger, Henry A.; Rogers, William P.; Nixon, Richard M. (President); Agnew, Spiro T. (Vice President); Scott, Hugh; Griffin, Robert P.; Cotton, Norris; Allott, Gordon L.; Dominick, Peter H.; Goldwater, Barry M.; Ford, Gerald R.; Arends, Leslie C.; Anderson, John B.; Devine, Samuel L.; Poff, Richard H.; Conable, Barber B., Jr.; Smith, H. Allen; Wilson, Robert C. ("Bob"); Byrnes, John W.; Bow, Frank T.; Dole, Robert J.; Shultz, George P.; Weinberger, Caspar W. ("Cap"); Stein, Herbert; Ehrlichman, John D.; MacGregor, Clark; Timmons, William E.; Cook, Richard K.; Korologos, Thomas C.; Dent, Harry S.; Ziegler, Ronald L.; Ziegler, Ronald L.; Harlow, Bryce N.; Koch, Noel C.; Gifford, William L.; Kissinger, Henry A.; Rogers, William P.; Recording Device: Cabinet Room
NARA Description:
On January 26, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Vice President Spiro T. Agnew, and Republican Congressional leaders, including Hugh Scott, Robert P. Griffin, Norris Cotton, Gordon L. Allott, Peter H. Dominick, Barry M. Goldwater, Gerald R. Ford, Leslie C. Arends, John B. Anderson, Samuel L. Devine, Richard H. Poff, Barber B. Conable, Jr., H. Allen Smith, Robert C. ("Bob") Wilson, John W. Byrnes, Frank T. Bow, Robert J. Dole, George P. Shultz, Caspar W. ("Cap") Weinberger, Herbert Stein, John D. Ehrlichman, Clark MacGregor, William E. Timmons, Richard K. Cook, Thomas C. Korologos, Harry S. Dent, Ronald L. Ziegler, Bryce N. Harlow, Noel C. Koch, William L. Gifford, Henry A. Kissinger, and William P. Rogers, met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 7:47 am and 10:02 am. The Cabinet Room taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 088-002 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 88-2 Date: January 26, 1972 Time: Unknown after 7:47 am until 10:02 am Location: Cabinet Room Vice President Spiro T. Agnew met with Hugh Scott, Robert P. Griffin, Norris Cotton, Gordon L. Allott, Peter H. Dominick, Barry M. Goldwater, Gerald R. Ford, Leslie C. Arends, John B. Anderson, Samuel L. Devine, Richard H. Poff, Barber B. Conable, Jr., H. Allen Smith, Robert C. (“Bob”) Wilson, John W. Byrnes, Frank T. Bow, Robert J. Dole, George P. Shultz, Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger, Herbert Stein, John D. Ehrlichman, Clark MacGregor, William E. Timmons, Richard K. Cook, Thomas C. Korologos, Harry S. Dent, Ronald L. Ziegler, Bryce N. Harlow, Noel C. Koch, William L. Gifford, Henry A. Kissinger, and William P. Rogers Schedule [General conversation/Unintelligible] The President entered at 8:03 am 1972 campaign Agenda -Budget Attendees 3 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/08) -Goldwater John F. Kennedy -Conversation with Goldwater about the Bay of Pigs Recording devices in the Cabinet Room Agenda The President’s January 25, 1972 speech on Vietnam -Reaction -J. William Fulbright -Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield -John C. Stennis Vietnam -Negotiations -Revelation of secret talks -Issues -The President’s opponents -Nguyen Van Thieu -Views -George S. McGovern ****************************************************************************** Vietnam peace negotiations Goldwater left at an unknown time before 10:02 am [To listen to the segment (59m52s) declassified on 02/28/2002, please refer to RC# E-574, E- 575.] ****************************************************************************** Stein’s forthcoming presentation Rogers left at an unknown time before 10:02 am Fiscal Year [FY] 1973 budget 4 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/08) National economy -Status -Prospects -Federal budget -Wage and price controls -Operation -Pay Board, Price Commission -Administration’s accomplishments -Real income -Administration’s policy -Stein’s role -Balance of payments -Currency realignment -Japanese, European action -US productivity -Views of John B. Connally and Paul A. Volcker -Currency realignment -Interest rates Federal budget for FY 1973 -Reduction in tax rates -Effect on generated revenues -Byrnes tax bill -Views of Shultz and Weinberger -Inflation -National defense -Procurement -Rate of increase in outlays -Compared to previous years -Lyndon B. Johnson -National defense -Compared to human resources -Crime and drugs -Rate of increase in outlays -Cities -Public housing -Revenue sharing -Food stamps -Number of recipients -Crime and drugs -Accomplishments in fight against problems 5 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/08) Civil rights -Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy’s speech -The President’s accomplishments -Federal employment -Reverse discrimination -Speeches by the President’s opponents Federal budget -Controllability -Reduction in increase in outlays National economy -Unemployment -Reductions in armed forces -Withdrawal of troops from Vietnam Federal budget -Possible roles of Shultz and Weinberger -Republican doctrine -Role of government in the economy -1958 deficit -Harlow -Dwight D. Eisenhower -Size -1966-68 deficits -Compared with deficits during the President’s tenure in office -Deficits -Full-employment revenues -Inflation -Liberals’ views -Welfare, food stamps, day care centers, the environment -Spending -Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson’s views -Congress’ role -National defense -Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT] -Anti-Ballistic Missiles [ABM] -Water Bill -Social welfare programs Congress 6 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/08) -Action on the President’s programs National economy -Dock strike on the West Coast ****************************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2 [Non-historical] [Duration: 21s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2 ****************************************************************************** [General conversation/Unintelligible] Recording was cut off at 10:02 am