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Conversation: 088-003

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Start Date: 28-Jan-1972 2:59 PM

End Date: 28-Jan-1972 3:50 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Construction Industry Collective Bargaining CommissionHodgson, James D.Van Dusen, Richard C.Counts, J. CurtisDunlop, John T.Bonadio, Frank A.Hutcheson, Maurice A.Ward, Martin J.Wharton, Hunter P.Halvorson, Carl M.Higgins, Robert L.Stastny, John A.Silberman, Laurence H.Usery, Willie J., Jr.Moskow, Michael H.Fosco, PeterLyons, John H. ("Jack")Pillard, Charles H.Power, Joseph T.Owens, Thomas H.Dunn, William E.Ferguson, James H.Rich, JosephMiller, George A.Stevens, Fred R.Witcraft, Dale R.Lafayette, David P.Uehlein, E. Carl, Jr.Mills, D. QuinnCarlough, Edward F.Healy, John W., IIGeorgine, Robert A.Sidell, WilliamRumsfeld, Donald H.

Recording Device: Cabinet Room

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NARA Description:

On January 28, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and members of the Construction Industry Collective Bargaining Commission, including James D. Hodgson, Richard C. Van Dusen, J. Curtis Counts, John T. Dunlop, Frank A. Bonadio, Maurice A. Hutcheson, Martin J. Ward, Hunter P. Wharton, Carl M. Halvorson, Robert L. Higgins, John A. Stastny, Laurence H. Silberman, Willie J. Usery, Jr., Michael H. Moskow, Peter Fosco, John H. ("Jack") Lyons, Charles H. Pillard, Joseph T. Power, Thomas H. Owens, William E. Dunn, James H. Ferguson, Joseph Rich, George A. Miller, Fred R. Stevens, Dale R. Witcraft, David P. Lafayette, E. Carl Uehlein, Jr., D. Quinn Mills, Edward F. Carlough, John W. Healy, II, Robert A. Georgine, William Sidell, and Donald H. Rumsfeld, met in the Cabinet Room of the White House from 2:59 pm to 3:50 pm. The Cabinet Room taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 088-003 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 88-3

Date: January 28, 1972
Time: 2:59 pm - 3:50 pm
Location: Cabinet Room

The President met with James D. Hodgson, Richard C. Van Dusen, J. Curtis Counts, John T.
Dunlop, Frank A. Bonadio, Maurice A. Hutcheson, Martin J. Ward, Hunter P. Wharton, Carl M.
Halvorson, Robert L. Higgins, John A. Stastny, Laurence H. Silberman, Willie J. Usery, Jr.,
Michael H. Moskow, Peter Fosco, John H. (“Jack”) Lyons, Charles H. Pillard, Joseph T. Power,
Thomas H. Owens, William E. Dunn, James H. Ferguson, Joseph Rich, George A. Miller, Fred
R. Stevens, Dale R. Witcraft, David P. Lafayette, E. Carl Uehlein, Jr., D. Quinn Mills, Edward F.
Carlough, John E. Healy, II, Robert A. Georgine, William Sidell, and Donald H. Rumsfeld
[Recording begins while the conversation is in progress]

     Garment industry
         -Unions
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/08)




Construction industry
     -Dunlop’s role
     -Collective Bargaining Commission
           -Goals
           -Effect
                 -Charts
           -Goals
           -Effect
                 -Publicity
           -Structure
           -Effect
           -Views of rank and file
           -Dunlop’s role
           -Conduct of management and labor
     -George P. Shultz’s views
     -Collective Bargaining Commission
           -John E. Quinn, Stuart Rothman, Clarence D. Barker
           -Operation
     -Knowledge
     -Collective Bargaining Commission
           -Value
     -Shultz
     -Collective Bargaining Commission
           -Value
           -Cost to taxpayers
     -Cost of living increases
     -Productivity Commission
           -Purpose
           -National Commission on Productivity
           -Goal
                 -Strikes
     -Prospects
           -Development of new employees
           -Collective Bargaining Commission

Van Dusen
    -George W. Romney
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                             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. 10/08)



     Construction industry
          -Status
                -The President’s role

     Industrial Revolution
          -History

     Construction industry
          -Structure
          -The President’s programs
          -Prospects
          -Wage rates
          -Labor-management relations
                -Perceptions
                -Government’s role
          -Wage rates
          -Collective Bargaining Commission

     Presentation of gifts by the President

     Construction industry


     [General conversation/Unintelligible]

The President, Hodgson, et al. left at 3:50 pm