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Start Date: Monday, January 24, 1972 8:35 PM

End Date: Monday, January 24, 1972 9:20 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Kissinger, Henry A.Bow, Frank T.Rogers, Adele (Langston)Woods, Rose MaryWhite House operatorSafire, William L.Sanchez, Manolo

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:27:13

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:09:56

317-015.mp3

NARA Description:

On January 24, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, Frank T. Bow, Adele (Langston) Rogers, Rose Mary Woods, White House operator, William L. Safire, and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:35 pm to 4:20 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 317-015 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 317-015
Date: January 24, 1972
Time: 3:35 pm - 4:20 pm
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Location: Executive Office Building
The President met with Henry A. Kissinger.
The President's forthcoming trip to People's Republic of China [PRC]
-Briefing books
-State Department
-The President's preparation
[The President talked with Frank T. Bow between 3:36 pm and 3:38 pm.]
[Conversation No. 317-15A]
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[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 10/03/2019.
Segment cleared for release.]
[Personal Returnable]
[317-015-w001]
[Duration: 32s]
[See Conversation No. 019-048]
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[End of telephone conversation]
Congress
-Tenures
John Sherman Cooper and Bow
-Bow
-Age
-Louie B. Nunn
The President's forthcoming Vietnam speech
-Content and phraseology
-Tone
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-Nguyen Van Thieu
-Negotiations
-The President’s courtesies
-Compared to Lyndon B. Johnson
-Progress in negotiations
-William L. Safire's dictation
-Compared to the President’s
-Records of private and public negotiations
-Historical record
-The President’s previous statements
-Leaks
-Safire's suggestion
-Soviet Union
[The President talked with Adele (Langston) Rogers between 3:46 pm and 3:47 pm.]
[Conversation No. 317-15B]
[See Conversation No. 19-49]
[End of telephone conversation]
Mrs. Rogers
The President's forthcoming Vietnam speech
-Content and phraseology
-Changes
-Record of private negotiations
-North Vietnam
-Thieu
-Le Duc Tho
-Xuan Thuy
-Kissinger’s briefing
-Thieu
-Ellsworth F. Bunker
-Negotiations
-Possible US military action
-Peace settlement
-Kissinger’s briefing
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-US threat
-US peace plan
-Possible deletion
-Tone
-Ending
-Final draft
-Rose Mary Woods
[The President talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 3:47 pm and 3:59
pm.]
[Conversation No. 317-15C]
Speech draft [?]
[End of telephone conversation]
[The President talked with an unknown person [Woods?] at an unknown time between 3:47 pm
and 3:59 pm.]
[Conversation No. 317-15D]
The President's forthcoming Vietnam speech
-Instructions
[End of telephone conversation]
-William P. Rogers's possible review
-Necessity
-The President's previous conversation with John B. Connally
-Safire
-Connally
-Kissinger's possible call
-Thieu
-Final draft
-Rogers
-U. Alexis Johnson
-Quality
-Changes
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-Rogers
-Safire
-Forthcoming conversation with Kissinger
-Thieu
-Possible public reaction
-Kissinger's forthcoming conversation with Safire
-Translations
Woods entered at 3:59 pm.
-Changes
-Completion
-Distribution
-Thieu
-Copies
-Safire
-Kissinger
-Connally, Safire
Woods left at 4:05 pm.
-Kissinger's forthcoming conversation with Safire
-Rogers
[Kissinger talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 4:05 pm and 4:20
pm.]
[Conversation No. 317-15E]
[See Conversation No. 19-50]
[End of telephone conversation]
The President's forthcoming Vietnam speech
-Review
-Changes
-Rogers
The President's forthcoming trip to PRC
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-The President's preparation
-Reading
[Kissinger talked with Safire at an unknown time between 4:05 pm and 4:20 pm; the President
conferred with Kissinger during the conversation.]
[Conversation No. 317-15F]
[See Conversation No. 19-51]
[End of telephone conversation]
The President's forthcoming trip to PRC
-The President's preparation
-Reading
-Kissinger's conversations with PRC officials
-Background material
-Briefing book
-Kissinger’s synopsis
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[Previous National Security (B) withdrawal reviewed under MDR guidelines case number
LPRN-T-MDR-2014-018. Segment declassified on 04/29/2019. Archivist: MAS]
[National Security]
[317-015-w006]
[Duration: 1m 37s]
The President’s forthcoming trip to People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-The President’s preparations
-Central Intelligence Agency [CIA] briefing book
-Additional reading
-Book prepared by Henry A. Kissinger
-Richard M. Helms briefing
Hussein ibn Talal
-India–Pakistan
-William P. Rogers
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-The President’s assessment
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The President's forthcoming trip to PRC
-The President's preparation
-Reading
-Vietnam
-Verbatim transcripts
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 4:05 pm
Refreshment
Briefcases
-Delivery to the President
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 4:20 pm
The President's forthcoming trip to PRC
-The President's preparation
-Kissinger’s briefing books
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
[National Security (B) withdrawal reviewed under MDR guidelines case number LPRN-T-MDR-
2014-018. Segment exempt per Executive Order 13526, 3.3(b)(1) on 04/29/2019. Archivist:MAS]
[National Security]
[317-015-w007]
[Duration: 8s]
INTELLIGENCE
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
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The President's forthcoming trip to People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-The President’s preparation
-Kissinger’s conversations with Chou En-lai
-Book on issues
-Kissinger’s synopsis
-Subjects
-Meetings with Chou
-Kissinger's previous meetings with Chou
-Tone
-The President’s visit
-Chou’s style compared to the President’s
-Notes
-Winston Lord
-Kissinger
-Translators
-State Department
-Chou
-Number
-Forthcoming communiqué
-Meetings
-The President's preparation
-The President's files
-Briefing book
-Timing
-Camp David
The President's forthcoming Vietnam speech
-Connally’s possible suggestions
-Thieu
Vietnam
-Air strikes
-Gen. Creighton W. Abrams, Jr.’s recommendation
-The president's authority
-Leak
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-Timing
-Abrams
-Air Force
Kissinger left at 4:20 pm.