Conversation: 338-035
Prev: 338-034 Next: 338-036Start Date: 9-May-1972 1:17 PM
End Date: 9-May-1972 2:00 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary; Kissinger, Henry A.; [Unknown person(s)];Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:35:16
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:13:23
NARA Description:
On May 9, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, Henry A. Kissinger, and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:17 pm to 2:00 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 338-035 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 338-35
Date: May 9, 1972
Time: 1:17-2:00 pm
Location: Executive Office Building
The President met with Rose Mary Woods.
Vietnam
-Blockade
-Support for the President
-Messages
-Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
-Thomas A. Pappas
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 17s ]
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-President's speech
-Pappas's response
-Mrs. Nixon
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Dec-01)
Conv. No. 338-35 (cont.)
-Response
-Pappas's response
-Calls
-Taft Schreiber's response
-Max M. Fisher
-Leonard Garment
-President's demeanor
-Press reports
-Television coverage
-James D. Hughes
-Woods's brother
-Report on call-ins
-Soviet Summit
-Cancellation
-Public opinion
-President's speech
-Offers for Soviets
-People's Republic of China [PRC] ships
The President talked with Henry A. Kissinger at an unknown time between 1:17 and 2:00 pm.
[Conversation No. 338-35A]
Vietnam
-Air strikes
-PRC ships
-Damage
-Reports
[End of telephone conversation]
President's schedule
-Camp David
-Dinner for Duke Law School classmates
-Lewis F. Powell, Jr.
-Dance
-Years of attendance
-Reunion picture
An unidentified woman
-Previous conversation with Woods
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Dec-01)
Conv. No. 338-35 (cont.)
Vietnam
-Blockade
-President's speech
-References to people of Soviet Union, South Vietnam, North Vietnam,
US
-References to Soviet Union
Soviet Union
-Possible Summit cancellation
-Responsibility for India-Pakistan war
-Cuba
-Policies toward Vietnam
-Summit
President's policies
-Necessity of victory in Vietnam
North Vietnam goals
The President talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 1:17 and 2:00 pm.
[Conversation No. 338-3B]
Vietnam
-Press release
-Public support for he President
-Kissinger
-Soviet Summit
-Publicity for President's position
-Charles W. Colson
-Albert E. Sindlinger poll
[End of telephone conversation]
Pro-Palestinian Arab guerrillas
-Hijacking of Belgian plane
-Demands
-Rescue
-Deaths
President's Vietnam policies
-Need for strong leadership
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Dec-01)
Conv. No. 338-35 (cont.)
-President's speech on the blockade
-Opponents
-Interviews with George Washington University students
-Woods’s view
-President's support for John F. Kennedy in missile crisis
-Compared with Edward M. Kennedy
-Support
-Woods’s brother-in-law
-Credit
-Compared with John F. Kennedy
-Second coming of Christ
-John the Baptist
-Saint Paul
-Saint Peter
-Absalom
An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 1:17 pm.
Drinks
The President’s schedule
The unknown man left at an unknown time before 2:00 pm.
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[Privacy]
[Duration: 1m 18s ]
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Manolo Sanchez
-Popularity among White House staff
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Dec-01)
Conv. No. 338-35 (cont.)
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 35s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
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Soviet Summit
-Possible cancellation
-Mrs. Nixon
-Timing
-Likelihood
-Consequences
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 3m 8s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
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Soviets
-The President’s view
-Summit
-US public opinion
-The President’s view
Vietnam
-President's previous speech on the blockade
-Preparation time
-Challenge in delivering speech
-Support
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Dec-01)
Conv. No. 338-35 (cont.)
-Telephone call from Jack Cauley [sp?]
-Southern Pines, North Carolina
-Public support
-Stakes for US
-Compared with England, France
-Possible communist world domination
-Woods’s view
-Nelson A. Rockefeller and Ronald W. Reagan
-Telephone calls
-John N. Mitchell
Rockefeller
-Quality of support
Reagan
-Woods’s view
-The President’s view
Rockefeller
-The President’s view
Ann Whitman
-Invitation to White House
-Dinner
-Evening
-Dinner for Mexican representatives
-Tables
-Setting
-Woods’s view
-Son
-Rockefeller
-Accomodations
White House dinners
-Rockefeller
-W. Kenneth Riland
-Woods
-Marina von N. Whitman
-Next state dinner
-Evening at the White House
-Timing
-California
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Dec-01)
Conv. No. 338-35 (cont.)
-Miami
-Plans
-Frank A. Sinatra
-"The Godfather"
-Fred Waring
-Movie evening with movie stars
Time of day
Woods left at 2:00 pm.