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Thanks, sir.

Well, here we go.

Well, we're, maybe we shouldn't be, but the lights, what is the, how about, how about a week?

They've got that, I think that's what you suggested last night.

They've got that, that location, of course, but we're not, I think, we're right, we're, we're just, and the, the,

Let's put it this way.

If we didn't know about that, then we were keeping it secret because the Russians asked us.

That's what they're talking about.

So when the jalapeno hanging came, it had to be some asshole down in the apartment.

But it is firing.

It got fired in one minute.

That will be the outcome.

I think we can get rid of this person.

It's his faith that isn't in the news today to any degree.

I think really George Meany saw Schultz this way.

And Meany said to Schultz, why don't you guys fight back?

George Meany said, great.

He said, why don't you guys fight back?

He said, please have robots at a specific point.

Please have robots use this.

And he dug up a letter that George McGovern wrote before all of May 24, 1965.

And he said, he put this with him.

He said, this is a memorandum of a great woman who was a big weed dealer.

And he said, if you compare the two, you will see that all the words from the other day was word for word.

He was spokesman for the big weed dealers in attacking the laborers.

And he said, please, tell everybody.

uh we're going to probably do it tomorrow but but me he said you guys should be taking a heat on that right now he said this is just devastating he said you'll see they don't really change a goddamn comment because the big business wheat dealer uh rejected and put it out as uh

And he said, that doesn't show that he was in the pocket of Big Randy that was in 1965.

No, he does.

He said, you charged me, right?

And he goes, shut up and stop talking about your Randy.

You know, the other thing is this.

Dr. Holland wrote about it, and I told him, I knew it, I asked you to sort of case the thing out, that little narcotic thing, and one of the members picked up, and they picked up the colorful, visual language, in other words, non-detailed, graphic, etc., TV feed on.

Now, in our case, there is nobody in the pricey shop who uses that kind of

That's what we need.

You need the colorful language.

And by colorful language, it is.

It doesn't mean hard language.

I mean, you can use hard language, but he does not use visual language.

He's an intellectual.

What we need is something that people can see.

They have them in the excerpts that were picked up most widely in the press.

I sent them to Ray Press.

I think only one of them had been in the original paper.

I think he wrote them all.

Well, the original paper, I wrote about it.

I didn't write them all.

They were one part.

They picked up pretty broadly.

They were very good.

That was the substance of it.

I knew that was going to be there.

That was the news.

But the thing, you see, it's easy to say something substantive and make news, but we have

And that's where the staffs interact.

And so it's unfortunate, but we have a couple of guys present that are in the session.

They should be.

They're all in the session.

Yeah, they really are.

I did.

That's right.

Yeah, that's good.

Let me tell you.

I tried.

Well, you know, if I water you, that does it.

Sure.

And even after that, I was in a couple of cases.

In fact, before I became president, you see, my assistant and then Dr. John was a long-time fellow of Dr. John.

You see, they had three long-distance travel with us, and I didn't have any time.

My mother was my medical doctor, my doctor gave me my business.

came into my office this morning, and my office was broken.

They had, he said, they broke open, broke open the big city and went into a smaller city for a hundred grand.

He said there's a hundred dollars in cash there and there's also some expensive prescription medicines, but none of that was touched.

The only thing that was touched was the President's medical

But of course I'm so, everybody knows so goddamned healthy, and I've been making it ever since.

I can have high blood pressure, high pressure.

I actually have a whole medical history of what I've had all my life, which is the usual thing.

But my point is, some infections have broken in, figured, you know, I'm trying to figure some of that out.

Now, of course, all it's going to mean is we've got to hold this in charge of the medical field, because it has to be in the field.

I don't know how to use it, and I said, we're not going to do it.

There it is.

Of course, there'll be the tendency, you know, of all they want to say, I don't know what it is,

But I'm like, oh, I think we owe this to the story.

Oh, my God.

This is really better than the story.

Ten times they broke in to get my medical records.

Oh, Jesus.

Broken and safe.

And you have the FBI going out there to check it and so forth.

I don't know.

But I thought I would die.

I said, plural language.

Of course, there's my New York doctor, and my, and the famous Hutchins, who is, of course, an analyst, and a professor, and a medical doctor, but, of course, there are all these people.

I don't care if they get an A.C. because anybody tries to attack me, I don't think it's going to be right.

Yeah, because the thing the guy is doing is that he is showing desperation, and it is one thing to listen to Larry Lyons on that scene, and something else to be able to steal the metalwork.

They didn't steal it from the truck, but you see, they have it on the floor, so we obviously think they copied it before they put it there.

That's what you did.

That's what they did on the truck.

That's right.

You had an owner for it.

And it is to the point that a million of them, they didn't touch them.

They didn't touch them on the dollars.

It was just laid right out there.

They did not take any restrictions.

So we've been there for the whole purpose of getting medical records returned to him.

So I'd say, I didn't do it myself.

Yeah.

Those wheelchairs that we did as a way to expose him.

We did.

That's a wheelchair.

Shit.

You can break your own pocket.

That's a wheelchair.

Yeah.

Shit.

I think that's... Yeah, I don't know anybody that's... Never.

Never, never, never.

Right, I was a little far away from us.

We were in control of it because he called .

Because if you wait too long, then they'll say, why didn't you say it?

Because we've got to put it out today.

It can't be a dead case.

I think if you wait, then they'll say, well, this is private.

And then it shows you the...

I've had that conversation with those two assembly workers.

What about Price-Harold's point?

That thing with the monitor?

Well, I don't agree with it.

He kept you off.

I don't agree with it.

I was, in all of the times, every year I've been in a political campaign since 1952,

I have never in my life seen any of that.

I have just watched on CBS, CBS ran three minutes of these two guys.

They just, one of them looks like Archie Hunter, the other, they're 30 years old, they're 28, they're 30.

One said, I'm a Vietnam veteran.

And they made one of them look like Jack.

Jack is largely a summer.

He said he was very clever in the way he handled it.

Oh, really?

I suppose that's

But the clever, no, most of the argument was, how can you be clever when you're a candidate for the United States?

Arguing with a guy in a t-shirt who was, excuse me, called, arguing with a guy in a t-shirt who was saying, we're for this country, we believe in this country, and I believe in that.

And the governor stood there and said, well, what would you do?

What would you do about this war?

He said, well, what are you doing about it?

And he said, I'm voting in this, and that's what I'm doing.

And the governor said, well, I have the same answer to this.

I really have the same answer.

Similarly, the problem is that it doesn't work.

You've got to drink.

Well, I had a good one, you know, he's a German, he's a German, and I think he was a fine mate.

Anyway, he doesn't, he told me the other night, he said, Chuck, he said, I'm going to get my wife, because she's been listening all night.

He said, and you're not going to believe me when I tell you what I'm going to tell you.

I said, I want her there as a witness.

So she got up and went.

people on cps

He never watched television.

He prefers to get the reaction.

But he'd pick this up, oh, he just said, it was the goddamnest wave of anger, anger.

I still, George says, well, the people are just shoving, and they're mad.

And he said, he said, I think they know me.

And he said, you'll say he's in that race or something.

And she said, yes, I remember that man who was saying, I wouldn't go to that man.

You know, he'd run out of this country, and she would interject.

And I mean,

I don't know, maybe this is one of your quotes.

But apparently, this one created a hell of an emotion.

And it wasn't funny.

And radio, the radio actually went all day.

It wasn't cool.

And I said, well, it's just a problem.

You can't listen.

It's going to end up depressing.

Something like .

I think we ought to get together, chapter first, how many people in our community were killed.

How many did he kill?

When you get it all again, how many did he kill in the start of that North Vietnam in 1954?

How many they had killed?

I mean, how many they had murdered?

How many they had killed?

In other words, if you put in, in other words, the number of Americans, the number of armed services personnel, the number of civilians, it would take me 20 months.

You see what I mean, Chuck?

It's going to be 40 days long in August.

Now, who are the killers?

Who are the murderers?

Who are the invaders?

It's an argument.

They've killed 5,000 camp buildings.

They've killed 5,000 lay oceans.

They've been murdered.

They've killed this and that.

In other words, leading up, what we want is this.

That's a hell of a record tonight.

And even our half-assed, disloyal bureaucracy should be able to get that.

These people, you can't let them get away with this horrible stuff.

They are killed by the tens of thousands, well, forget this.

I don't want them back in Canada, but I mean the ones in the United States.

See what I mean?

There's some in jail now.

I believe in jail.

Most of them are in jail.

You know about the average worker in the exodus control.

It isn't that he's vindictive towards those people.

It's that he feels, God damn it, I served my time.

I want to get this.

I didn't take any money.

I had to do what I was drafted.

I want to do what I risked my life.

If those guys get off work, then what did I do?

They'd probably have to give a couple years of my life or risk my eye or lose my son.

I'd let the son of a bitch get off.

They personalize it for themselves.

It's a selfish reaction.

It's either mine or what the hell should we do here?

It's a drag.

That's why so many people around here, let's face it, their kids have found ways to flood their minds.

I'm having a guilt reaction.

That's another thing.

Do you understand?

Yeah, sure.

I guess the leaders of the college, when I was there, had to do it.

That's the number.

If you're having a good break, I'm here.

I'm here tomorrow to see you.

That's the number.

So we are in September with two tents.

The only other one is me, but it hasn't been.

The next one is either zero or really no change, or maybe he's done with them.

That's just going to take the sting of the price issue.

What in the hell do they matter?

It's that, for instance.

People are uncertain of death.

They still think, like, everybody's going to win.

You might hear something like that in the news.

I think he's probably going to pop over to town on Monday evening.

I've been waiting for him to go to Paris and bring home twenty-five persons and bring home a hundred persons.

He suffered that, so he can't go to New Orleans.

He's got to be home.

You saw the animosity in the place of these people in that middle.

Was it animosity?

Good.

But he deserves it.

He takes it.

He really does.

I've been waiting for it.

I've known Howard for years.

What he wrote in here is he said, this quote of Barker, made the statement that, if all is the truth to be known, Howard Hunt would be owed a debt of gratitude to his country that never would be paid.

And that's what he said.

And I happen to have known Howard Hunt for 20-odd years, and I'm the godfather of his three children.

And I know that when Barker said one of them is true, that goes on to Eulogize Hunt as an ordinary day of the week.

and say, how could we never have this, except there are bigger things in the state.

The bigger things in the state have to be what a lot of people have figured out, and that is the Castro regime was putting money into the government campaign.

And if this wasn't attempted by Andy Castro, then it's because Castro was putting money into the government campaign.

Gee, you're right.

My girlfriend just went, but I had to be heard about it.

What'd he say?

Well, that's when he made the scurrilous,

and preposterous, and absurd.

I think the cash director probably aren't making money.

He's getting money from some sources.

Well, I know one.

No, I know the whole story.

But,

Yeah, that's right.

The charge that he was taking, Castro money, and our money, was actually to some patriot to try to prevent it.

And it wasn't just actually for the committee, but for the rest of the people.

It was that power, when that was put under his nose, and he read it, and sent it, and sent it to the government.

And there's a lot of fatigues, I think, because they know there's a little bit of war on the island.

And then I said, you know what I realized is that as a general, you all remember when I came to the press conference, and also when I did the comments and expressions, I distinguished very carefully between the columnists and the commentators.

And I said, we're not on the same pageant about this, but should I express it?

Because that was the thing.

I'm a reporter who had an obligation to report the facts as they were.

You know, we did a royal tour for Mr. President last year.

On the money, the Kennedy money.

And I'll tell you what, it gave me a little off the bat.

I said I was proud of that meeting.

Oh, it was great.

Great.

So the problem with what he's done is that, I'll be saying, if you have got some on here in the iron, which Kimmel, Kimmel yesterday came out and said he wished they would and carried on.

I'm saying there's been no getting on it.

The way the story's carried on, the way it's been started, the way it's been funded, I know it's the worst thing that's ever happened.

Now, Schreiber came out and said, talking about his own personal network, how he's done it.

Is that what he says it is?

Because you get it right.

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I had no intention of doing it.

I would have hoped that if they were interested in the success of the campaign, they would make a kind of deal.

But it's just kind of a wedding.

I'm kind of a strategist.

I'm just how we're going to make a deal.

I don't know if that's going to work in Maryland.

But the net worth, I mean, it's like a $100,000, $700,000, it's like a how the hell can we make a deal?

We're talking gambling.

What they look at now is, what, is, well, having money which Joe Kennedy was a genius at being able to figure out for us, and so they probably

But, yes, they probably have a $20 million trust, and they grow the income and pay the rent, and they can do what they want.

We can't say more about that.

Well, we can.

We've got some bottom-up on saying, why doesn't the city have it?

Why doesn't the county have it supported?

I don't know.

They didn't put something in it.

Well, that's all right.

No, well, no.

The thing is, I think the thing is the unreported estimates.

In other words, in 1958, when Jack Henry was virtually out of those countries, his papers reported that he spent an estimated $800,000 virtually out of those, telling him what he had really got to do.

So it was all the same to me.

If you don't go to the official report, you just say that it was reported in 1958.

The gentleman had to spend $800,000 on a three-motion silent motion system.

Bobby Kennedy spent $7 million.

It was that many for the government.

That's all you have to do.

Nobody's going back and trying to piece together the violence under the old statute.

You can't find it.

Back in the time, he spent about $40 million.

Everybody in the country thinks that, and it says in here that Joseph Kennedy was one of the richest men in America.

But nobody thinks that.

Every bit's a joke.

The Kennedys always, the people that the Kennedys poured millions into their campaign are ashamed.

So for that to be given not a nickel, the Shriver has to make him feel it.

People have to say what's wrong with it.

Or it's a bad investment.

There's another investment, which is that Teddy has just sent a letter out to the millionaires

I heard about that.

Well, here he is asking little people to put money in and he's not putting any.

People should ask him, how much do you think he's going to put in?

That's right.

Answer the letter again.

How much do you think?

He'll say, I don't know.

So, except for the possibility of my wife, none of the Kennedys has given any money yet.

We'll dispose of all the money we get.

Certainly all the money the Kennedys get.

Just try to investigate.

That's what he asked.

That ever beats all of the government insurance, hardly even the great insurance.

So he gets into the, he gets into the damnedest of statements.

I mean, they're probably, they do not work.

I put all the money I make, whether it's in the locker room, or when I'm invested in the plans, or from the government, into our joint efforts as a family, trying to set up and explain why the only other way to get out of the health insurance.

And I just think it comes up very quickly.

I don't know about you, but a lot of some pictures.

Why?

I don't know my picture.

Everybody knows it about the troops, but it's made a bunch of money.

I haven't got what I've got.

Well, they think he's lying.

They know he's married to the Kenyans.

They see that picture with the huge house.

And now they're reading this sort of pitiful stuff.

I certainly wouldn't ask people that.

If you ask people like that,

But maybe if they have any hope for having a successful campaign, it would be this summer.

I mean, it's just, it's a marvelous boy.

I don't have any hope for him, but I'm sure I'm one of the best co-executives I've ever met.

It's one of those things.

But we have to figure it out.

We have to figure it out.

I'm so stupid.

I think it is just that I think they figure that the virus, you having been in politics so many years, I mean, well, we've been at it since the beginning.

We start right out of the beginning and keep reaching on the road.

I love that.

Yeah, and I can see the vision that this is coming on tonight.

It's very possible that the tax reform and the war that you're under is campaigning hard.

and he can't get near you, as it is.

He's obviously doesn't intend to tell you that he's traveling around, driving by the road, not on the hills to see 150 people, and he's going as far as he can to get you.

Traveling is like weapons, they're just driving the same.

It's a bunch of comments, but I say, oh, she wasn't wearing any weapons.

I mean, if I could agree with you, please, the impression of how difficult it is for his company.

I feel very good for him because I know so well he took a paper in America.

And I'm sure that giving a paper, 21 years in the CIA, whatever his country goes, a paper in his life.

Then he comes out of the CIA into this environment.

And he goes to this environment.

I mean, I'm sure he had a place to hang on to.

Knowing how it was, he was thinking, you know, I'm still working my life out on the spot.

That's just the way it was.

The only thing I know he said to me, well, you're right, it's very difficult, but I'm sure, I'm sure they go, I don't need to sign it, go to heaven.

That's the way he thought.

But he did a total thing.

He did a total right thing.

he has no trouble

I don't want to ask me all about that.

I'll be around.

If you don't believe me.

But you can imagine the government's deflation.

At the moment, he's even been able to get, you know, he thinks he's getting any harder.

I mean, something like that, of course, after a long hard day, running around in the town of West Virginia, he probably just didn't, he just came back.

We've had our people on the impact as opposed to just doing work.

We've had Jim Cousins in the way that we've had them on the barrier and economics.

And I've had to work more than a couple of times

Yes, sir.

how about the girl character

Well, I talked to Scali and told him it wasn't at all.

He couldn't just run to the nest.

He had to go to every one of our surrogates to talk about it.

I'm sure he played a lesson on it.

The wires played really good.

The wires had to say it was a five-day tour.

It was a non-possible process.

It was a long day.

Yeah.

What are the progress you're making on that thing?

The only problem that I see is that, Ralph, you can't even let it wait a day, Bob.

You let it rest a day.

That might be a real problem because it looks like a fix.

Well, but we did it ourselves.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, I could either do it today or forget it.

Sure.

Well, I really feel that, as a matter of fact, he may have been the choice to do that.

After all, it was a murderous crime.

And it really has to be reported.

It looks like we've got something we want to try and cover up.

That's the other side of it, too.

I agree with you.

I don't think we've got any choice at all on this one.

I think we should just start out and put it out.

I'm sure it's still fixated.

There's a hard business to find out.

Yeah.

We really gotta help that.

But they find out that it's not the nation that's coming after them.

I just noticed that you can't sit with them on it.

They won't come after you.

Well, Bob actually is trying to think about making the rest of the world crash again.

You gotta take the risk.

They're gonna say, we find it in ourselves.

That's the obvious conclusion.

They try to buy something that you personally need.

He was the one, last spring, I remember he said that our ability, and we were all saying, well, you know, he gets a lot of data, but he kind of raised his hand.

When he voted, he was right.

When he did that vote, 38% said they wanted to bond.

He also said, you can't be right.

That's what he said.

No, no

Not doing anything.

And he said, you have to do it better than this.

Go for it.

And I can't.

I see over there, I guess they're going to move up.

I don't think they're going to move up.

I appreciate you doing it for me.

A little smear to bring things to a good time.

A lot of people have done it constantly, you know, instead of doing it.

People have really asked me, how do you do this?

How do you die in a sense of honor?

It just doesn't express how much you did.

I would just say you do a lot more than that.

that kind of stuff is so absurd, you know what I mean?

He's put up quite a number of experiences, and we get frustrated because we put up an attack on him, but some of his

One of the issues I can understand why he has not read all of the standards and gone one of those actions.

I promise you, you know, you could be the best one who can get people angry.

Wallis, Wallis is shooting you in the head for a great deal.

And the Paris video, which he's not going to print, shows that 90% of people in corporations should be taxed more than 80% of people.

They're being taxed too much, and you could just play it out and come up with an annual tax issue.

It would be good.

what he is doing.

I'm still opposed to our coming out for raising the taxes on the rich.

I vote to service any tax issue that comes to the focus of the bill.

Unless we have, well, I think we can, of course, go to our game plan, to the camp, to our program, so to speak, what we call the, we can find a way to get property back.

That's not correct.

But I am afraid of the tax, of saying that we will now double the tax on the wealthy, so to speak.

I don't think it's the way to do it.

You see my point?

I don't have a good idea.

I realize people are more taxable.

I think the incorporation should be taxable.

But I don't think that's the reason for us to be poor.

I don't think we can.

It's for him.

He should.

It's really true for him.

And we have to come out and say we've reduced, we've increased corporate tax by $400,000.

We've reduced personal income tax by $20,000.

And then we've taken so many of the rules.

It's the only issue, though, Mr. President, as I look down the road.

I don't think we should, because at the moment, I feel very strongly that we don't make an issue.

We don't make a new issue for him.

I think the strategy is just right, and whether our service is continued is, and forced to remain, that's good.

The last four weeks, he has not gained, because we have kept him out of business.

I think he can talk about it.

we're responding to him too much and we can go over to him and tell him.

He isn't getting his campaign over again.

One reason he isn't getting his campaign over again is because we're gutting him.

We're gutting him on little things.

We're gutting him on big things.

We've got people harassing him.

We're just trying to work through the public health and the women on it.

But I don't know.

Things are getting to the

the moment we throw up something that you can shoot with with our people we're still we don't see it but our people are still out there they really are

We're getting it out of our intention.

So why do you think we want to eat the tree?

Unless we have to.

We have to.

We really started to eat it at some point.

We have to reassess it.

Well, they just have to take it.

You have to realize it.

It's like a waterway, for example, which I thought it happened to be.

It's on a race hill, it's on a quarter, it's on a hill.

It's awesome.

It's a hard thing, but it must be a spring, or a waterway, or a city, or something like that.

If we did it, if we did it, frankly, maybe another one.

First, it will destroy our ability to do property taxes.

Second, it increases over four years taxes by $24 billion.

I'm not taxing the expense.

When I've got that negative transaction, I can raise taxes, but I just can't do it.

That's a great way to prove the point that you're not going to understand.

Right now, we've been credibly deprived of our growth statement because Johnny Brown's insurance and taxes

Our own people.

I know that Bob is part of this movement.

He's trying to be smart and has to go out.

He wants to have sex with me.

He always wants to be different.

And he wants to see the press.

He's telling the press that he's just not as good as he should be.

The figures are we going to have to raise taxes?

He's a fiscal conservative.

They don't realize it.

So let's be racist.

They won't have to be racist.

We'll keep the budgets at our level.

When they had $250,000, for example, that was as much as it was by some chance.

It must have been bigger than $250,000.

$250,000 a season.

I'm not going to say this season makes it possible for us to say the kind of work we're going to do in our country.

We've got credit.

But that's why we go to the word of God.

There's two virtues in my life.

One virtue is that it enables us to say, you know, this is because you're going to keep our place in that day.

Secondly, it's considered not to be as livable as being inventive.

A few of those are in advantage.

There are lots of others.

We don't get rolled on.

We feel better first around the question of what's in Congress, or what's in Congress.

You see, you're getting government.

It's got to be very, very critical.

I don't believe it's the meeting level, but they're going into a position where a lot of people are thinking that he's really not going to act.

Right?

And, uh, he's, like, on our side of the bill, you know.

So, basically, we're talking about, you know, those are, as a buyer, right, it's irrelevant at all.

So, I would help on that.

I don't know where it is.

I don't know.

He said, the whole country is sick and we're going through an emergency.

I don't think people want it, but people want to believe them, and they don't want to believe them.

That doesn't mean, I don't think he's ever said it, but he might have said it this way.

But that's about the only upkeep.

And he said, Chris Shriver said he put his head so that you can't say that to people.

One of the misguided people, they didn't know that for sure.

I don't know if this is one, but I think it's one of the people.

I think it was Roy Shriver who was using it.

You know, that is the best professional culture.

Well, they've got to go back four years and they're doing 300 a week, right?

So we've got to pay us for late.

You know, steady for burning.

The cats.

The kids are all going to be out.

We've got to talk about narcotics.

We've got a lot, a lot, a lot of problems.

And people at that time, really, it wasn't what they considered.

It was what it was.

I can remember being very worried about what you should have done.

It really is genuinely worrying me.

Washington has a terrible life.

Where is the old American guy from?

I mean, I think the real problem

They're out of step.

We just have to be into it more and more.

And that's what's doing to me.

It's partly that we're into what's going to be happening.

I think that's a good point.

You know, we stood up against the radicals, frankly.

We stood up against the pacers and the bloodhounders.

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