Nixon White House Tapes ›Tape 357 › Conversation 357-012

Nixon & Woods on John C. Lungren and Break-in

Thursday, September 21, 1972 · 5:02 PM–5:25 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building ·36 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Woods, Rose MaryConversation357-012 onTape 357StartThursday, September 21, 1972 at 5:02 PMEndThursday, September 21, 1972 at 5:25 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 357-012 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and his personal secretary, Rose Mary Woods, discuss the recent break-in at the office of Dr. John C. Lungren, Nixon’s personal physician. The participants exchange views on the bizarre nature of the incident and analyze potential theories regarding the perpetrator's motives. The brief discussion serves to address the President's assessment of the security breach and gather Woods's perspective on the developing situation.

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So that is the most bizarre answer out there.
What do you think of it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
Good job.
Thank you.

NARA Description

On September 21, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:02 pm and 5:25 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 357-012 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 357-12

Date: September 21, 1972
Time: Unknown between 5:02 pm and 5:25 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

                                        (rev. Oct-06)

The President talked with Rose Mary Woods.

             Break-in of Dr. John C. Lungren’s office
                 -The President’s view
                 -Unknown person’s view

Also recorded on September 21, 1972

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  • 030-014 4:36 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone at 4:36 pm.
  • 030-015 4:38 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 4:38 pm.
  • 357-013 5:02 PM · 50 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:02 pm and 5:25 pm.
  • 357-014 5:02 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:02 pm and 5:25 pm.
  • 357-015 5:02 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:02 pm and 5:25 pm.
  • 030-016 7:42 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 7:42 pm.
  • 030-017 7:42 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger talked on the telephone from 7:42 pm to 7:43 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 357-012, September 21, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/357-012 (accessed September 18, 2026).