Conversation: 477-002
Prev: 477-001 Next: 477-003Start Date: 12-Apr-1971 11:28 AM
End Date: 12-Apr-1971 12:41 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.; Chow, Shu-kai; Mosbacher, Emil ("Bus"), Jr.; Baker, Steven; Chennault, Anna C.; Sanchez, Manolo;Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:20:33
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:34:16
NARA Description:
On April 12, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, Shu-kai Chow, Emil ("Bus") Mosbacher, Jr., Steven Baker, Anna C. Chennault, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:28 am to 12:41 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 477-002 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 477-2
Date: April 12, 1971
Time: 11:28 am - 12:41 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Henry A. Kissinger
President’s meeting with Taiwan ambassador Chow Shu-kai
-New foreign minister
-Announcement of lifting of trade restrictions on People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-Timing
-Provisions
-Currency control
-Shipping
-Symbolism
-United Nations [UN] representation
-US policy
-Chiang Kai-shek
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-US emissary
-Ping-pong team
-New York Times
-Chinese
-Visit of US ping-pong team to PRC
-Reception
Chow Shu-kai and Emil (“Bus”) Mosbacher, Jr. entered at 11:31 am; members
Conv.of the477-1
No. press(cont.)
were
present at the beginning of the meeting
Greetings
Photo session
Chow Shu-kai’s tenure
-Foreign Minister
-Schedule
-Career
-George Kung-chao Yeh
Taiwan
-Friendship for US
-President’s greetings to Chiang Kai-shek and Madame Chiang Mayling Soong
-President’s visit’s to Taiwan
-US treaty commitments
-US relaxation of trade and travel with PRC
-US relations
-Visit of ping-pong team from PRC
-Relaxation of travel, currency, and shipping restrictions with PRC
-Significance
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[National Security]
[Duration: 18m 55s ]
TAIWAN
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-Trade and currency regulations with PRC
-Lifting of restrictions
-Commerce Department
-Announcement
-Timing
-Significance
-Foreign flag vessels Conv. No. 477-2 (cont.)
-US competitive situation
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[National Security]
[Duration: 39s ]
TAIWAN
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-UN representation
-Possible press queries
-President’s meeting with editors, April 16, 1971
-US position
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[National Security]
[Duration: 3m 27s ]
FOREIGN AFFAIRS
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-Travel, trade with PRC
-US policy
-Eastern Europe
-USSR
-US treaty commitments Conv. No. 477-2 (cont.)
-Melvin R. Laird
-Defense support
-Chinese people
-Walter P. McConaughy
-US support for Taiwan
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[National Security]
[Duration: 37s ]
TAIWAN
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
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Presentation of Gifts
-Madame Chow Lily Chang
Chiang Kai-shek
-President’s previous visits
Taiwan
-UN representation
-US position
-Overseas Chinese
Chow Shu-kai’s shedule
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-Afternoon meeting with Kissinger
Chow Shu-kai and Mosbacher left at 12:05 pm
Chow Shu-kai
State Department
-Charles W. Bray, III’s statement on Okinawa Conv. No. 477-2 (cont.)
Overseas Chinese
-Impact of PRC recognition
-Difficulties
An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 12:05 pm
Picture session
The unknown man left at an unknown time before 12:07 pm
PRC
-Trade announcements
-Marshall Green
-John B. Connally
-Connally’s view
An unknown man [Stephen B. Bull?] and Anna C. Chennault entered at 12:07 pm
Greetings
The unknown man [Bull?] left at 12:07 pm
Chennault’s trip
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 12:07 pm
Refreshment
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 12:41 pm
Chennault’s trip to Asia
-Taiwan
-Korea
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-Thailand
-Philippines
-Singapore
-Taiwan
-Vietnam
-General Nguyen Van Thieu
-Schedule
-Ellsworth F. Bunker Conv. No. 477-2 (cont.)
-Thieu’s possible conversation with President
-Prisoner of War [POW] issue
-Thieu’s decision to release POWs
-H. Ross Perot
-Vice Presidents
-Visit to various places
-Demonstrations
-[Unintelligible]
-POWs
-North Vietnamese objectives
-Negotiations
-1968 bombing halt
-Thieu’s objectives
-Possible meeting with President in Guam or Hawaii
-Thieu and Bunker
-Relationship
-General Creighton W. Abrams, Jr.
-Present conditions
-Chennault’s conversation with Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy
-Thieu
-Economic conditions
-Press
-Military operations
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
[National Security]
[Duration: 4m 57s ]
TAIWAN
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-PRC
-Ping-pong team Conv. No. 477-2 (cont.)
-Businessmen’s attitude
-Trade
-US Chamber of Commerce
-Madame Duong (Tran) Thi Larg
-Flying Tiger Airlines
-Pan American/Trans World Airlines [TWA]
-Taiwan
-US policy
-Allies
-New Ambassador
-Chiang Kai-shek
-State Department
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
[National Security]
[Duration: 20s ]
TAIWAN
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-Thailand
-Prime Minister
-[Communications Air Chief Marshal] Dawee [Chulasap]
-Support for President
-Foreign Minister Thanat Khoman
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-Problems
-Khoman
-Sugar quotas
-Singapore, Korea, and Taiwan
-Communications
-State Department
-Herbert G. Klein
-Laird Conv. No. 477-2 (cont.)
-Military aid
-Asians
-US policy in Asia
-US consultants
-Sir Robert Thompson
-Charles E. (“Chip”) Bohlen
-Chennault’s possible role
-Schedule
-Contacts
-Americans and Asians
-Relationship
-Kissinger
-Chennault’s liaison role
-Thieu
Vietnam
-Problem
-US public opinion
-US policy
Taiwan
-President’s knowledge of Chinese
-President’s support
-UN representation
-Allies
-US policy
PRC
-Relaxation of travel and trade restrictions
-Significance
-Symbolism
-Reaction of Chinese community
Taiwan
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-US alliance
-PRC
-USSR
-Middle East
-Chennault’s role
-President’s PRC initiative
-State Department
-Chiang Kai-shek Conv. No. 477-2 (cont.)
-Overseas Chinese
-Malaysia
-Singapore
Chennault’s position
-Title
-Taiwan
-Overseas Chinese
-Klein
-Chennault’s support for the President
-1968 campaign
-Taiwan
-US embassy
-US Chamber of Commerce
-Liaison
-Flying Tigers
-Republican Party
-Trade
-Klein
-Title
-Asian adviser
-State Department
-Asian affairs
-Everett M. Dirksen
-Murphy
-John N. Mitchell
Vietnam
-President’s possible meeting with Thieu
-Elections
PRC
-Communism
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Taiwan
-Economy
-Exports
-Compared with PRC
-Lobby
Presentation of gfts
Farewells Conv. No. 477-2 (cont.)
-Chennault’s daughters
Chennault’s schedule
Kissinger and Chennault left at 12:14 pm