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Start Date: 19-Apr-1971 3:52 PM

End Date: 19-Apr-1971 4:05 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Bull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 03:04:19

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:17:40

482-021.mp3

NARA Description:

On April 19, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:52 pm to 4:05 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 482-021 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 482-21

Date: April 19, 1971
Time: 3:52 pm - 4:05 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

     Haldeman's conversation with William P. Rogers regarding Paul N. (“Pete”) McCloskey,
          Jr.
          -William H. Sullivan
          -McCloskey's charges
                -Validity
          -Sullivan meeting with McCloskey
          -Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy hearings, April 22, 1971
          -Rogers
          -Sullivan
          -G. McMurtrie Godley
          -Air Force
          -Rogers's upcoming press conference
          -Godley
          -Henry A. Byroade and William J. Porter
                -Shift
          -Byroade
                -Personal life
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           -Qualifications
           -Relations with Rogers
           -Porter
           -Henry A. Kissinger
           -Personal life

President's conversation with George P. Shultz
     -Donald E. McLarnan
            -John D. Ehrlichman
     -Discipline in bureaucracy
     -Removals from office
            -White House
            -Office of Management and Budget [OMB]
            -Agencies
            -Disloyalty
            -McLarnan
     -Frederic V. Malek
     -Disloyalty

International Telephone and Telegram [ITT] anti-trust case
      -Ehrlichman
      -Richard G. Kleindienst, John N. Mitchell
            -Richard W. McLaren
      -McLaren
            -Resignation
      -Mitchell
      -Loyalty

United Nations [UN] staff
     -Charles W. Yost
          -Removal
     -George H.W. Bush
     -Appointees
          -Study
          -Timing
     -Possible removals
     -Supporters of Yost
          -Bush
     -Bush
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                             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 9/08)



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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[Privacy]
[Duration: 6s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3                                               Conv. No. 482-21 (cont.)

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           -State Department
           -Removal of Yost's associates
           -Rogers
           -Byroade
           -Yost
           -Bush
           -Removals
           -Yost's State Department associates

     McLaren
         -Resignation
         -Mitchell
         -Kleindienst
         -Mitchell
         -Ehrlichman
         -Kleindienst
         -President's role
         -Staff's role

     Haldeman's conversation with Daniel P. (“Patrick”) Moynihan
          -People's Republic of China [PRC]
          -Harvard University

[Transcript #1: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]
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                                      Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 9/08)



          -J. Edgar Hoover
Stephen B. Bull entered at unknown time after 3:52 pm.

     President's schedule
          -John L. McClellan

Bull left at an unknown time before 4:05 pm.
                                                               Conv. No. 482-21 (cont.)
     Haldeman's conversation with Moynihan
          -Moynihan's optimism
          -Harvard
          -Speeches
          -Ideas
          -Support for President
          -Democrat support for President
          -John B. Connally


     Cabinet resignations
          -Rogers
          -John A. Volpe
          -Rogers
          -Elliot L. Richardson
          -Timing
                -1972 election

     President's conversation with Shultz
          -Removal of McLarnan
                 -Timing
                 -Publicity
                 -Demotion

     Discipline of bureaucracy
          -Office of Management and Budget [OMB] and Cabinet
          -Connally's view
          -Administrations position
          -Walter J. Hickel
          -Unknown man
                -Robert H. Finch
          -Yost
          -[Forename unknown] Long
          -Alain C. Enthoven
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                                     Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 9/08)



             -Dr. Lee A. DuBridge
             -Cabinet
                   -Volpe
             -DuBridge
             -McLaren
                   -Mitchell
                   -Removal
                                                                   Conv. No. 482-21 (cont.)
Haldeman left at 4:05 pm.