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Start Date: 22-Apr-1971 10:41 AM

End Date: 22-Apr-1971 12:01 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Ford, Gerald R.Byrnes, John W.Richardson, Elliot L.MacGregor, ClarkCole, Kenneth R., Jr.Price, John R., Jr.Bull, Stephen B.Sanchez, ManoloConnally, John B.Ziegler, Ronald L.Maroon, FredWayman, Stan

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:57:32

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:14:09

486-002.mp3

NARA Description:

On April 22, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Gerald R. Ford, John W. Byrnes, Elliot L. Richardson, Clark MacGregor, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., John R. Price, Jr., Stephen B. Bull, Manolo Sanchez, John B. Connally, Ronald L. Ziegler, Fred Maroon, and Stan Wayman met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:41 am to 12:01 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 486-002 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 486-2

Date: April 22, 1971
Time: 10:41 am - 12:01 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Gerald R. Ford, John W. Byrnes, Elliot L. Richardson, Clark MacGregor,
Kenneth R. Cole, and John R. Price, Jr.

     Greetings

     [General conversation]
          -MacGregor
          -Green Bay Packers
                -Phil Bengsten

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:41 am

     The President's schedule
          -John B. Connally
               -Location

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:26 am

     The President's remarks at Republican Governors' Conference, Williamsburg, Virginia,
          April 19, 1971
          -Welfare

     Welfare bill
          -Proposed National health Insurance Standards Act
          -Difficulties
          -Congress
                -Committee action
                -Calendar
          -Liberals and conservatives
          -Support
          -Senate
          -Anticipated votes
          -Prospects
          -President's conversation with Richardson
          -Administration's dilemma
          -Unemployment
          -Ronald W. Reagan
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          -Work requirements
          -Reagan
          -MacGregor's conversation with Wilbur D. Mills
               -President’s Wiliamsburg speech
                     -Impact on H.R. 1 vote
          -Prospective vote
               -Timing
          -Rules Committee
          -Hearings
          -Calendar

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 10:41 am

     Refreshments

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 11:26 am

     Senate Finance Committee
          -Forthcoming hearings, April 26, 1971
          -Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy
          -Russell B. Long
          -Unknown person
          -Kennedy hearings
          -Peter H. Dominick and Kennedy
          -Health crisis
          -Health legislation hearings
                 -Timing
                 -Long
                 -Wallace F. Bennett
          -Kennedy hearings
          -Pending legislation
          -Family health insurance
          -Initiation
                 -House

     Revenue sharing
         -Mills
         -Timing
         -Criticism of administration policies
         -John V. Lindsay and Reagan
         -Health insurance bill
               -Economic aspect
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-Political aspect
-Burden on employers
-Contribution by employees
-Effect on large employers
-Economic effect on marginal workers and employers
-Responsibility on employers
      -Minimum wage
      -Unemployment compensation                      Conv. No. 486-2 (cont.)
      -Social Security
-Economic and political problem
      -Effect on small businesses
      -Marginal employers
-Byrnes's conversation with Richardson
      -Employer responsibility
-Treatment of middle tier
-Marginal workers
-Government-payed medical assistance
      -Medicaid
            -”Medicall indigent”
-Employers of marginal workers
      -Marginal workers
            -Costs
            -Numbers
            -Social Security
            -Small business
            -Wages
            -Department of Health, Education and Welfare [HEW] study
            -Earnings
            -Welfare
            -Social Security
            -Earnings
            -Minimum wage
            -Effect on job opportunities
      -Employer's responsibility
      -Political aspects
      -Effect on small employer
-Minimum wage
      -Exempt workers
            -Numbers
      -Mills' views
            -Two-dollar minimum wage proposal
      -Retail services establishment
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                       -Exemption
                 -Farm labor
           -President's program
                 -Coverage
           -Possible committee action
           -Minimum wage
                 -Exemptions
                       -Retail establishments                     Conv. No. 486-2 (cont.)
                 -Administrative, professional employees
                 -Teachers
                 -Salesmen
                 -Employees of retail services establishments
           -Administration's program
                 -Mills' views
           -Exemptions
           -Small businesses
           -Criticism of program
           -Three tiers
                 -Federal Government responsibilities
                       -Medicare, medicaid
                 -Employers
                 -Employees
           -Smaller employers
           -Tiers
                 -Government
                 -Employers
                 -Employees
           -Employers
                 -Deductions of costs
                 -Taxes

The President's meeting with motion picture producers, April 5, 1971
     -Taft Schreiber
           -Tax depreciation
     -Other participants
           -Views

Health insurance bill
     -Marginal employers
           -Income
           -Tax deductions
           -Contributions
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-Medical care, insurance
      -Costs
-Cost
      -Projections
      -Government employees plans
      -Projections
      -Insurance companies
      -Small business                              Conv. No. 486-2 (cont.)
            -Thomas S. Kleppe
            -Maurice H. Stans
            -Cutbacks
-Employers of domestic workers
      -Health insurance
            -Twenty-hour work week
      -Women
            -Children
            -Welfare
            -Coverage
-Part-time employees
-Economic and political aspects
-Mills
      -Burden by the President
-Agricultural workers
-Middle America
-Support for Republicans
      -Grocery store
      -Dress shop
      -Drug store
      -Motel
            -Cleaning ladies
            -Minimum wage
      -Free enterprise
-Third tier
-Federal government participation
-Contribution of employer and employees
      -Ratio
-California plans
-Burden on employer, employee, government
-Economic impact
-Changes in minimum wage
      -Arthur F. Burns’ study
      -Reduction of job opportunities
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-Effect on small employer
-Administration's welfare program
      -Low-skilled jobs
      -Burden on employers
      -Responsibilities of government
      -Medicare, welfare program
      -Older people
            -Medicaid                               Conv. No. 486-2 (cont.)
      -Low-income groups
      -Burden on employers
-Committee's possible action
-Burden on employers
      -Minimum wage
      -Social Security
      -Unemployment compensation
-Approach to bill
-Problem
-Possible solutions
      -Alternatives
      -Cost
-Eligibility for subsidies
-Small employers
-Gross income
-Number of employees
-Coverage
      -Subsidies
-Subsidies
      -Problems
      -Administration's position
            -Commerce Department
            -Small Business Administration [SBA]
            -Small business representatives
-Administration's program
      -Pressures to liberalize
            -Family health insurance
            -Childless couples
            -Single adults
            -Expand
            -Benefits package
                   -Dental care for children
-Long-term savings
-Dental care
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              -Costs
         -Supply problem
              -Medicare and Medicaid
              -Shortage of doctors
              -Health care facilities
              -President's proposals
         -Dental care
              -Private practices                           Conv. No. 486-2 (cont.)
         -Dentists
              -Work
              -Cleaning of teeth
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                    -Money
              -Doctors
              -Pressures on administration
              -Cost of medical insurance
              -Kennedy proposal
              -Administration's program
                    -HEW
              -Political aspect
                    -Congress
                          -Burden on small business
                          -Political issue
              -Possible administration strategy
              -Family health insurance plan
              -Welfare, unemployment
              -Issues
                    -Coverage, benefits
              -Administration's perspective
              -Small business
                    -Costs
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             -Concessions

                    -Effective date
                    -Benefits, costs ratio
              -Conversations with representatives
                    -Subsidy approach
        -Richardson's conversations
        -Main Street America                                Conv. No. 486-2 (cont.)
        -Political impact
              -Tax
        -Lobbyists
        -Execution of plan
-Cost
-Bill
      -Introduction
-Part-time employees
      -Motels
-Competing claims
-Administration concerns
-Senate hearings
-Political impact
-Business associations
      -National Federation of Independent Business [NFIB]
      -National Business league
      -National Small Business Association
      -Association of Small Business Investment Companies
      -Subsidy device
      -Cost considerations
-President's possible position
      -Small businessmen
      -Possible administration amendment
      -Subsidy
            -Administrative complexity
      -Cost
      -Subsidy
-Possible administration bill
-Effect on Main Street
-Amendment
      -Credit
      -Byrnes
      -Introduction
      -Mills
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     -Mills
     -Possible administration amendment
     -Connally
     -Kleppe
     -Stans
     -Price
     -MacGregor
     -Bill                                                   Conv. No. 486-2 (cont.)
           -Introduction
     -Byrnes
     -Possible administration bill
     -Republican committee meeting [Committee on Ways and Means]
           -Richardson
           -John G. Veneman
           -President's program
           -General fund
                 -Social security
           -Byrnes
           -Healthcare package
                 -Minimum wage, unemployment compensation, social security
           -Burden on employers
           -Byrnes
           -Political, economic aspects
           -Byrnes
           -Republican committee members
     -Byrnes' conversations with MacGregor and Richardson
     -Possible administration program
           -Insurance burden
                 -Main Street
                 -Wall Street, Park Avenue

The President's schedule
     -Connally

Health insurance bill
     -Ways and Means Committee
           -Complexion
           -Republican members
                -Brynes
           -Democrats
                -Chairman [Mills]
           -Vote
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                      -Prospects
                -Mills
                      -Support for small business
                      -Background
                -Bill
                      -Version
                -Alternatives
                -Problems                                      Conv. No. 486-2 (cont.)
                -Possible action
          -President's possible position
          -Alternatives
          -Richardson's conversations with small businessmen
          -President's possible position
          -Legislation
          -Possible administration bill
          -Administration's position
          -Senate
                -Bennett
          -Ford's and Brynes's possible initiatives
          -Possible House, Senate actions
          -Conference
          -Possible Republican bill
                -Provisions
                -Exemptions for small business
                -Political aspect

Connally entered at 11:26 am

     Greetings

     The President's schedule
          -Meeting with Republican Congressional leaders

     Health insurance bill
          -Administration bill in Senate
                -Bennett's role
          -Administration bill in House
                -Brynes's and Ford's view
                -Special treatment for small business
                     -Exemptions
                            -Minimum wage
                            -Unemployment insurance
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         -Possible administration alternative
         -Brynes's position
         -Main Street businesses
               -Hiring of unemployables
               -Burden
         -Way and Means Committee
               -Possible action
               -Mills                                         Conv. No. 486-2 (cont.)
                     -Father
                           -Independent grocer
                           -President's father
         -Effect on small businessmen
               -Number effected
         -Political problem
         -Difficulties for administration
         -Cost
         -Possible government program
         -Other proposals
               -Cost
         -Coverage
               -Contact lenses
               -Dental care
                     -Children
                     -Older people


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         -Consensus
         -Brynes' view
         -Ford's view
         -Possible administration bill in the House
              -Exemptions for small businesses
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      -Alternative proposals
      -Cost
-Possible House action
      -Brynes' view
      -Administration's bill
      -Mills
      -Effects on small businessmen
      -Political problem for administration          Conv. No. 486-2 (cont.)
-Effects on small businessmen
      -Richardson's view
      -Brynes's view
      -Administration's position
-Administration bill
      -Timing
-Connally’s view
      -Costs of health bills
      -Exemptions for small businessmen
      -Cost
      -Political impact
      -Administration's constituency
-President's position
      -Health crisis
      -National health insurance
      -Medical care
      -Administration's bill
            -Benefits
            -Private insurance companies
            -Problem
            -Supply
      -Kennedy approach
            -Free medicine
            -Dental care
            -Plastic surgery
      -Plastic surgery
            -Appeal to women
-Cost
-Subsidy for employers
      -Payments for insurance premiums
-Richardson's conversations
      -Chambers of Commerce
      -National Association of Manufacturers [NAM]
      -Small business groups
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     -Business views regarding taxes
          -Subsidies
     -Burden on small businessmen
     -Possible employer/employee participation
     -Cost of insurance policies
          -Effect on small businesses
          -General Motors [GM]
     -Possible administration amendment                   Conv. No. 486-2 (cont.)
     -Brynes's role regarding small businessmen
     -Possible administration amendment
          -Timing
          -Brynes's initiative in House
          -Senate bill
     -Administration Congressional strategy
     -Hearings
     -Ways and Means Committee
          -Differences in Committee
          -Problem for administration
     -Administration bill
          -Ford’s possible role
          -Effects on small businessmen
          -Richardson

School integration in North and South
    -Administration's position

Health insurance bill
     -Differences in House bills
           -Brynes, Ford
     -Political problem
           -Connally's view
     -Cost
     -Administration's possible program
     -House bill
     -Accommodation of competing claims
     -Resolution
     -Bennett's bill
     -President's meeting with Richardson, Brynes, Ford
     -President's position regarding House bill
           -Hearings
           -Ways and Means Committee
     -Bennett's possible reaction
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     -Alternate House bill
     -President's options
     -Kennedy
     -Political impact
     -Coverage
           -Burden on employers
           -Exemption of coverage
           -Coverage                                              Conv. No. 486-2 (cont.)
                 -Financing
                 -Possible administration position
                       -Connally
     -Consultative process
     -Richardson's possible alternative proposals
     -Bennett
     -Variant
     -Possible Republican bill in House
           -Timing
           -Alternative language
           -Brynes
           -Alternatives
           -Timing
           -Richardson
           -Byrnes
     -Richardson's and Byrnes's possible activities
     -Mechanics
     -Connally's cost analysis
     -Additional costs
     -Medicaid costs
     -Burden on small employers
           -Significance
     -Marginal employer
     -Work for welfare recipients
     -Creation of job opportunities
     -HEW
           -Richardson
     -Possible alternate cost proposal
     -Prospects

Welfare
     -Brynes' conversation with Mills
     -President's remarks at Williamsburg Republican Governors'
      Conference
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     Presentation of gifts
          -Paper weights
          -Golf balls

     School integration in North and South
         -Richardson's role
                -Case-by-case basis                                    Conv. No. 486-2 (cont.)
                -Speech, April 21, 1971
                      -Reception
                      -Content

          [General conversation]

Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 11:50 am and Ford, Byrnes, Richardson, MacGregor, Cole, and
Price left at 11:51 am

     The President's schedule

Fred Maroon and Stan Wayman entered at 11:52 am

          -Upcoming photo session
              -President and Connally
              -Location
              -Rose Garden

Ziegler, Maroon and Wayman left at an unknown time before 12:01 pm

     President's meeting with Texas A&M Singing Cadets, April 18, 1971
          -Number
          -Joe Frazier
                 -Family
          -Carl W. Haley
                 -Duke University
          -Singing
          -Appearance
          -Vietnam veterans
          -Support for the President
          -[Dwight] David Eisenhower II's remarks
                 -Size of Texas A&M
                       -Compared to Harvard Univerity, Yale University, Princeton University
          -Texas A&M
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               -World War II officers
                     -West Point
               -President
                     -James Earl Rudder
               -Rudder
                     -World War II service
                           -Anzio
                     -General Omar N. Bradley                      Conv. No. 486-2 (cont.)
          -Songs
               -"Battle Hymn of the Republic"
               -"How Great Thou Art"
          -Idanell (“Nellie”) Connally
               -Possible reaction
               -Appearance on "Mike Douglas Show"

Ziegler, Maroon and Wayman entered at an unknown time after 11:52 am

     The President's schedule
          -Photos
               -Location
          -Connally
               -Press

     Photo session
          -Connally's possible meeting with Wayman

          [General conversation]

     Unknown [McCall’s?] story
         -Timing of release
         -Connally’s forthcoming meeting with Hedley W. Donovan
         -Story
         -Photos
              -Timing

     The President's schedule
          -Photos
               -Rose Garden

     The President's meeting with Texas A&M Singing Cadets

     The President's schedule
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          -Photos
               -Timing

The President, Connally, Ziegler, Maroon, and Wayman left at 12:01 pm



                                                                        Conversation No.(cont.)
                                                                        Conv. No. 486-2  486-3

Date: April 22, 1971
Time: 12:01 pm - 1:43 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with John B. Connally, Jr.
[This recording began at an unknown time while the conversation was in progress]


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     Economy
         -Mortgage rates
              -Decrease
         -Stock market
              -Rise
         -Robert J. Dole’s speech in New York City, April 21, 1971
              -Public confidence
         -Gross National Product [GNP]
         -Retail sales
         -Automobile sales
         -Housing starts
         -Consumer Price Index [CPI]
              -Rise
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      -Quarter
-Cooling
-Administration policy
-President's conversation with Arthur F. Burns
      -Tax reduction
-Administration policy
-Council of Economic Advisors [CEA]
      -Views                                                Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
      -Expertise
-First National City Bank, New York
      -Model
            -Level
-Unemployment rate
-Inflation
-Welfare
      -President's remarks at Republican Governors' Conference, Williamsburg, April
            19, 1971
            -Work requirements
-Unemployment rate
      -Problem
      -Teenage
      -Quarter
      -Adult categories
-Administration policy
      -Shultz
-Confidence
      -Growth
-Administration policy
      -Staying the course
-Wilbur D. Mills' conversation with Charles E. Walker
      -Investment tax credits
            -Timing
-Burns
      -Visit to Europe
      -Tax credits
      -Federal Reserve Board [FRB]
      -Possible meeting
            -Shultz and Paul W. McCracken
            -Schedule
      -Central bankers
      -Burns' forthcoming report to the President
            -Views
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         -Confidence factor
    -National psychology
    -Mood
    -Vietnam
         -End of war

Lockheed and Rolls Royce case
    -Burns                                              Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
    -Negotiations
    -Agreement
    -Bank loans
          -Amount
          -Airlines
    -President's possible decision
    -Negotiations
          -Timing
    -Meetings
    -Progress
    -Relations
          -Understanding
          -Agreement
    -Difficulties
    -Rolls Royce's position refinancing
          -Assurances regarding Lockheed
    -Banks
    -Airlines’ position
          -Terms
    -British
          -Cost of engines
          -Position
          -Money
    -Airlines' view regarding Rolls Royce
          -Survival
    -Great Britain
          -Edward R.G. Heath
    -Financing
          -Method
    -Engine
    -Meetings of April 20, 1971
          -Eastern Airlines
          -Charles C. Tillinghast, Jr.
          -Floyd D. Hall
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      -Turner [Forename unknown]
      -Hoss [sp?] [Forename unknown]
      -Delta Airlines
      -Charles H. Dolson
      -Frank F. Davis
      -William L. Hoffman
      -Length
-Agreement                                           Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
-Banks
      -Loans
      -Collateral
-Possible legislation
-Lockheed
      -Settlement
      -US government
      -Cheyenne helicopter
      -Defense Department
      -Ship contract
      -Lawyers
      -Receivership
-Airlines
-Banks
-President's position regarding Congress
-Defense Department
      -Lockheed
-Financing
-President's possible decision
-Effect on economy
-Contracts
      -Timing
      -Deadline
-Administration's possible position
-Conditions
-Charles P. Hess
-Congressional support
-Hall
-Media
-Congress
-Commitment
-President's possible position
      -Conditions
            -Congressional guarantees
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                 -Bank loans
                 -Negotiations
                       -Lockheed, British government, Rolls-Royce
                       -Lockheed and airlines
     -President's schedule
     -Congressional committee
           -Treasury Department
           -Clark MacGregor                                       Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
           -Banking and Currency Committee
           -Interstate and Foreign Commerce Committee
     -Banking and Currency Committee
           -Relations with Connally's staff
           -Wright Patman
     -Senate
           -William Proxmire
           -Alan Cranston
                 -Supersonic Transport [SST]
           -John V. Tunney
                 -James S. McDonnell
     -McDonnell's activities
     -McDonnell-Douglas Company
     -Lockheed's possible bankruptcy
           -Effect on McDonnell-Douglas
     -McDonnell-Douglas
           -Economic interests
           -David Packard’s position
     -L-1011 Employees

Suppliers
     -Lockheed's possible bankruptcy
           -Symbolism
     -Connally, Walker, and James E. Smith's conversations with Congressmen
           -President's possible position
           -Reaction
     -Connally's conversation with Carl B. Albert, April 21, 1971
           -Albert’s position
     -President's schedule
           -Meeting
     -Lockheed
           -Financial situation
     -SST
     -Lockheed
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          -Tradition
          -Air Force One
                -President’s flights in 1950's
          -Military supplies
          -Receivership
          -Cost
          -President's position
                -Effect of possible bankruptcy on economy   Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)

H. Ross Perot
     -Loan

Lockheed
    -Meeting
    -President's schedule
          -California
                -Forthcoming trip on April 30, 1971
    -Meeting

Connally's breakfast meeting with Republican Congressmen
     -Ways and Means Committee
     -Banking and Currency Committee
The President's breakfast meeting with Melvin R. Laird

Connally's forthcoming meeting with Gerald R. Ford

Senate
     -Leadership
          -Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield
          -Hugh Scott

House
    -Leadership
    -Democrats
         -[Thomas] Hale Boggs
         -Albert
              -John W. McCormack

               -Mills
               -George H. Mahon
          -Prospects
          -Albert
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                    -Activities
                    -Health
                    -Responsibilities
                    -Speaker
                    -Performance
         -Republicans
              -Ford
                    -John W. Byrnes                             Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
                    -Frank T. Bow
                    -Committee members
                    -Discipline
              -Compare with Black caucus
         -Democrats
              -Disarray
         -Leadership

    Senate
         -Robert A. Taft, Sr.
              -Republicans

    House
        -Republicans
             -Ford
                   -Discipline
        -Democrats
             -Caucus, April 21, 1971


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               -Quorum
               -Liberals
               -Vietnam
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          -Albert
          -Mills
     -Republicans
          -Ford
          -Connally's meeting
                -Ways and Means Committee members

Congress                                                Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
    -Public reaction
    -Performance
    -Democrats
    -Senate
         -John L. McClellan
         -John C. Stennis
         -Richard B. Russell
         -David H. Gambrell
         -Spessard L. Holland
         -Lawton M. Chiles, Jr.
         -Democrats
               -James O. Eastland
               -Robert C. Byrd
         -Republicans
               -Roman L. Hruska
               -Carl T. Curtis
               -Unknown person
               -James Abourezk [?]
    -House
         -Republicans
               -Ford
                     -Committee members
               -Brynes
               -Bow
               -Leslie C. Arends
                     -Mahon
         -Democrats
               -Mahon
                     -Qualifications
                          -Speaker of the House
                     -Chairman
                          -Appropriations Committee

State Department
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         -Connally's relations


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[Duration: 2m 15s ]                                                   Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)

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    Turkey
         -Government
         -Importance
         -State Department
         -William P. Rogers
         -Connally's previous conversation with John N. (“Jack”) Irwin, II
               -Treasury Department
         -Opium
               -US position
                     -Possible ban on cultivation
                           -Timing
               -Negotiations
               -President's instructions to Ambassador William J. Handley
               -Domestic problem for US
               -US position
         -US aid




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     TURKEY

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                                                           Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)

          -Connally's letter to Rogers
          -Opium
               -Value
               -Growth
          -Negotiations
          -Opium
               -Elimination
               -Growth
               -US position

     US-French Relations

     Japan
          -State Department
          -Textiles
                -Dumping
                -Burlington Mills
                -Trade Agreement
                -Imports
                -State Department
                      -Reaction
                -David M. Kennedy
                      -Trip
                -Eugene T. Rossides call to Anthony J. Jurich
                      -Administration’s position
                -Kennedy
                      -Manila
                -US position
                -Sanctions
                -State Department
                -Negotiations
                      -Kennedy
                -Sanctions
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               -Kennedy
               -Negotiations
               -Treasury Department
               -Sanctions
                     -Dumping
               -State Department
               -Connally's message to Kennedy
               -Armin H. Meyer                                   Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
               -Negotiations
               -Meyer
               -President's Position
               -Connally's Activities

     Possible cabinet appointments
          -Opportunity
          -H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
          -John N. Mitchell
                -Role
                -Cabinet
          -President's previous conversation with Haldeman
                -Executive Office Building [EOB]
          -Mitchell
                -Location
          -State, Defense
                -Changes
                -Timing

Haldeman entered at 12:30 pm

          -State and Defense Departments
          -Attorney General
                -Timing
                -Mitchell
                      -Successor
                      -Richard G. Kleindienst
                -Kleindienst
                      -Qualifications
          -Rogers C.B. Morton
                -Role
          -George W. Romney
                -Tenure
                -Department of Housing and Urban Development [HUD]
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                      -Blacks
           -John A. Volpe
                -Salesmanship
                -Issues
                -Emotion
                -Jack J. Valenti
                -Meeting with the President, April 23, 1971
                                                                        Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
     The President's schedule
          -Meetings with Cabinet officials
               -Connally
               -Elliot L. Richardson
               -Mitchell
               -Laird
               -Rogers
               -Reaction
               -Morton
               -Romney
               -Volpe

     Possible Cabinet Appointments
          -Richardson
          -Romney
          -Richardson
                -Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW]

[Transciprt #1: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]

                 -Qualifications
                 -Salesmanship
                 -Management skills
                 -HEW
                      -Programs
                             -Welfare, education, health
                 -Departmentt of Commerce
                      -Maurice H. Stans
                      -Need for salesmanship
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                   -Stans
                   -Robert H. Finch


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[Personal Returnable]                                        Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
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    Possible Cabinet appointments
         -Commerce
               -Salesmanship
               -Statistics
         -Salesmanship on economy
               -Shultz
               -McCracken
         -Candidates
         -Commerce Department
               -Need for pro-business attitude
               -Salesmanship
                     -”Buoyancy”
               -Ability to attack
               -Businessman
               -Peter G. Peterson
                     -Qualifications
                     -Appearance
                     -Salesmanship
         -Army Secretary
               -Belton Kleberg (“B.K.”) Johnson
                     -Robert J. Kleberg, Jr.
                     -Qualifications
                     -Wife
                     -Age
               -Candidates
               -Stanley R. Resor
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                -Departure
                     -Timing
                -Laird
           -Johnson
                -Service record
                -Previous conversation with Connally
                -Loyalty
                -My Lai cases                                 Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
                -Courage
                -Cornell University and Stanford University
                -Frank Zogg [sp?]
                     -William P. Clements, Jr.
                     -Walter Annenberg
                -Texas families
                     -Intermarriages
                     -Vanderbilts and Whitneys

Possible Cabinet appointments
     -Johnson
     -Businessman
     -Peterson
     -Agriculture Secretary
           -Farmers
           -Ezra Taft Benson
           -Orville L. Freeman
           -Clifford M. Hardin
                 -Qualities
                 -Wife
                 -Salesmanship
                 -Job offer
                       -Purdue University
                            -Alumnus
                            -Presidency
                            -Possible acceptance
                 -Loyalty to the President
                 -Signal

Military manpower bill
      -Senate Armed Services Committee
            -Vote
            -Draft extension
      -President's position
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Possible Cabinet appointments
     -Agriculture Secretary
           -Hardin
                 -Academic credentials
           -Requirements
           -Candidates
           -Fighter for administration                   Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
           -Midwest, plains states
           -Background
                 -Farmer
                 -Wealth
                 -Success
     -Opportunity
     -Colorado
           -Groups
           -John A. Love
                 -Background
     -American National Cattlemen's Association
           -Past presidents
           -Montfort [Forname unknown]
     -[Unintelligible name]
     -Nelson [Forename unknown]
     -Colorado, Wyoming
     -Midwest
     -Mountain states
     -Colorado and Wyoming
     -George A. Smathers
           -Ed Carver [?]
     -Tobacco
     -Border States
           -Kentucky
           -Tennessee
           -Missouri
     -Breeding associations
     -Farm bureaus
     -Granges
     -Cattlemen
           -Support for administration
                 -William D. Farr

Office of Emergency Preparedness [OEP]
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-National Security Council [NSC]
      -Connally
      -Mitchell
      -George A. Lincoln
            -Salesmanship
            -Removal
-Disasters
      -Public relations                              Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
      -Texas drought
      -California earthquake
-Public relations
-Job requirements
-NSC
      -Statutory member
-Candidates
      -[David] Kenneth Rush
            -Berlin negotiations
            -Qualifications
            -Background
                  -Union-Carbide
      -Gen. Leonard F. Chapman
            -Possible earlier appointment
                  -Joint Chiefs of Staff [JCS]
            -Age
            -Marine Corps commandent
            -Speeches for administration
            -Politics
            -Appearance
            -Speech
-Salesmanship
      -Public relations
            -Importance
-Admiral George W. Anderson, Jr.
      -Appearance
      -Qualifications
      -Ambassador to Portugal
-Rush
-Chapman
-Anderson
      -Administration spokesman
      -Previous relationship with Connally
            -Secretary of Navy
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                -Arleigh Burke
                -Articulation
                -Hardliner
                      -NSC
                            -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
                -Daughter
                      -David M. Abshire
     -State Department                                       Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
     -Agriculture Department
     -Commerce Department
     -Labor Department
           -James D. Hodgson
           -Spokesman
     -HUD and HEW Departments
     -Attorney General
     -Transportation Department
           -Volpe
     -Romney
     -Volpe
           -Ambassador to Italy
           -Performance

The President's schedule
     -Social engagements
          -Connally and Idanell (“Nellie”) Connally
     -Religious services at White House
          -Texas A & M University choir
          -Benefits
          -Sermon

Camp David
    -Cabinet use
         -Connally
         -Golf
         -Volpe

Sequoia
    -Remodeling
    -Availability
         -Dinner
         -Small groups
    -Trips
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           -Cabinet use
                -Connally

Connally left at 1:08 pm

     Possible Cabinet appointments
          -Discussion
                -Value                                           Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
          -Peterson
                -Present assignment
                -Staffer
                -Corporate presidents
                -Likely performance
                -Staffer
                -Possible appointment as Commerce Secretary
                      -Salesman
                      -Economy
                      -International affairs
                      -Present assignment
                            -Connally's view

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 1:08 pm

     The President's schedule
          -Executive Office Building [EOB]

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 1:43 pm

     Possible appointments
          -OEP
                -Candidates
                     -Anderson
                           -Henry A. Kissinger
                                -Qualifications
                                -Administration spokesman
                                -Hardliner
                                     -National defense
                                -Rogers and Laird
                                -Daughter
                                     -Abshire
                     -Rush
                     -Peterson
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                -Anderson
     -Agriculture Secretary
          -Hardin
                -Haldeman and Rogers
                -John C. Whitaker
                -President's possible action
                -Haldeman's possible conversation with Rogers
                -Reassignment                                   Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
                -1972 campaign
                -Tenure

People's Republic of China [PRC] initiative
     -Haldeman's previous conversation with Rogers
           -Kissinger
           -Rogers's forthcoming press conference
           -President's statement
                 -State Department role
                       -Rogers
                 -Press release
           -President's press release
                 -NSC
                       -Under secretary’s committee
           -State Department
           -NSC
           -Press story
     -Rogers's call to Haldeman
     -Kissinger
           -NSC
     -President's statement
           -Phrasing
     -Rogers’ call to Haldeman
           -Foreign Service
                 -Support of the President
                       -Charles W. Yost
           -State Department
                 -Support of the President
           -Rogers’ role
                 -NSC
                       -Under secretary’s committee
           -State Department
                 -Marshall Green
           -Press
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                      -Marvin L. Kalb
                -Rogers's forthcoming press conference
           -Kissinger
                -NSC role
           -NSC
                -Under secretary's committee
           -Haldeman's previous conversation with Rogers
                -Under secretary’s committee                            Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
                -State Department
                      -Foreign Service

[Transcript #2: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]

     PRC initiative
         -Rogers
         -President's Statement
                -Ronald L. Ziegler
                -Kissinger’s role

     The President's schedule
          -Lockheed meeting
                -Timing
                      -California
                      -Announcement
                -News value
                -Connally
          -Meeting
                -Burns and Connally
          -Timing
          -Rogers
                -Meeting, April 22, 1971
                -Trip
                -Press conference, April 23, 1971
                -Trip
                      -Duration
     PRC initiative
          -Public statement
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           -Kissinger
           -State
           -NSC
           -President's Role
           -Rogers

Henry Cebot Lodge Commission
     -Lodge                                               Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
           -Possible meeting with the President
     -Report
     -United Nations [UN] representation
           -PRC
           -Taiwan
     -Press
     -Congress
     -Yost
     -Composition
     -Report
     -Meeting with the President

PRC initiative
    -Kissinger
    -President's Statement
    -NSC
           -Under secretary's Committee
    -State Department
           -Rogers
    -Kissinger
    -State Department
    -Press Release

The President's schedule
     -Arthur S. Flemming
           -Conference on aging
     -California
           -Radio
           -Farm speech
     -Farm speech
           -Salute to Agriculture
           -Timing

Lockheed
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         -Decision

    The President's schedule
         -California
               -PRC
                     -"Experts"

    PRC initiative                                            Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
        -President's position
        -John A. Scali
        -US relations
        -Publicity
        -"China scholars"


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    Possible appointments
         -Volpe
               -Connally's view
               -Instructions for Kissinger
                      -Italy
         -Ambassador
               -Italy
                      -Volpe
                             -Rogers
                      -[Unintelligible Name]
                      -Possible Italian-American appointees
                             -Unknown doctor
               -Shultz and John D. Ehrlichman
               -Lincoln
                      -Qualifications
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                        -Mitchell's view
                 -Transportation Department
                        -Salesmanship
                        -Airlines
                 -Volpe
                        -Ambassador to Italy
                              -Graham A. Martin
                 -Italian representation                                Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)
                        -Importance
                 -Transportation
                 -Peterson
                        -Salesman
                        -Qualifications
                        -Salesman
                        -Reassignment

[Transcript #3: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]

     Lyndon B. Johnson
         -Legacy
         -Vietnam
         -Backlog
         -Democratic party
         -Personality
         -Television sets
               -Oval Office
         -Ticker tape machines
         -Briefings
         -Press
         -Appearance
         -Press Secretary
               -Briefings
                     -Recordings
         -Use of time

     PRC initiative
         -Press Release
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                -Staff
                -Scali
                -Ziegler
                -Kissinger
                      -NSC

The President and Haldeman left at 1:43 pm
                                                               Conv. No. 486-3 (cont.)