Conversation No. 487-21

Date: April 23, 1971
Time: 2:52 pm - 3:36 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.
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Unknown man
    -Hardhats
    -Meeting with with the President

Government reorganization plan
    -Department of Agriculture
         -Role of Secretary of Agriculture
         -Farmers                                         Conv. No. 487-21 (cont.)
         -President’s concern
               -Difficulties
         -Congress
               -Possible compromise
    -Labor and Commerce Departments
         -Compared with Department of Agriculture
    -Department of Agriculture proposal
         -Problems
               -Need for response
    -Department of Natural Resources
    -Department of Agriculture
         -President's position
    -Labor and Commerce Deaprtments
    -Department of Housing and Urban Development [HUD]
    -Department of Transportation
    -Department of Agriculture
         -Constituency
    -Commerce Department
         -Business attitudes
    -Department of Transportation
    -Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW]
    -HUD
    -Department of Transportation
    -Business
    -Commerce and Labor Departments
    -Labor Department
         -Constituency
    -Commerce Department
         -Business attitudes
    -Labor Department
         -Labor attitudes
               -Constituency
               -Support for the President
    -Department of Agriculture
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             -Farmers
                   -Constituency
                   -Support
             -Farm states
                   -Senators
                   -Congressmen
             -Possible administration position
                   -Possible changes                          Conv. No. 487-21 (cont.)
             -Negotiations
             -John D. Ehrlichman
             -George P. Shultz
             -John B. Connally
             -Political situation

Polls
        -President's schedule
              -American Society of Newspaper Editors [ASNE]
                    -Press coverage
              -Daughters of the American Revolution [DAR]
                    -Press coverage
        -People's Republic of China [PRC] initiative
        -Economy
        -Vietnam
              -Approval and disapproval rating
              -Laos operation (Lam Son)
              -February 1971
              -George Gallup poll
              -Opinion Research Corporation [ORC] poll
              -Gallup poll figures
                    -Approval and disapproval poll
                         -Numbers
                         -Shift
                         -January 1970
                         -December 1969 - February 1970
                         -March 1970
                         -April 1970
                         -Cambodia
                         -May 1970
                         -February 1971
                         -April 1969
                         -September 1969
                         -October 1969
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                             -November 1969
                                  -Shift
                                  -Events
                 -President's schedule
                       -American Society of Newspaper Editors [ASNE]
                       -Radio broadcast
                       -Press
                       -Williamsburg speech                         Conv. No. 487-21 (cont.)
                 -PRC initiative

[Transcript #1: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]

     Network presidents
         -William S. Paley’s call to Charles W. Colson
               -Possible administration initiatives
         -Al Chamie
         -Herbert R. Rainwater
         -Media
         -Chamie
         -Veterans of Foreign Wars [VFW]
               -Rainwater
         -Rainwater
               -Possible media coverage
         -Possible administration initiatives
               -Coverage

[Transcript #2: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]

Henry A. Kissinger entered at 3:20 pm.
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US and Soviet relations
     -Kissinger’s meeting with Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
           -Results
     -Strategic Arms Limitations Talks [SALT]
           -Aleksei N. Kosygin
                 -Exchange of letters
                       -Methods
     -Summit meeting                                     Conv. No. 487-21 (cont.)
           -Timing
           -Announcement
     -Berlin
           -Prospects
           -Politburo
           -Dobrynin
           -President’s possible position
           -Framework
           -Soviet strategy
           -Summit meeting
           -Negotiations
           -US position
                 -Kissinger’s comments
           -West German position
           -Kissinger's schedule
                 -Bob [Surname unknown]
                 -Woodstock conference
     -Summit meeting
           -Soviet position
                 -Dobrynin
                 -Politburo
     -SALT
           -Soviet position
                 -Politburo
           -US position
           -Timing
           -Exchange of letters
           -Announcement
           -Issues
           -Arms limitations
                 -Negotiations
                 -Henry M. (“Scoop “) Jackson
                 -Dobrynin
                 -Soviet missile capacity
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            -Possible US proposal
                  -Strict military capacity
                  -Possible US position
            -Kissinger’s assessment
-Summit meeting
      -Timing
      -US bureaucracy
      -US position                                   Conv. No. 487-21 (cont.)
      -Timing
      -Negotiations
      -US strategy
      -Announcement
            -Scope of public comments
      -Kissinger's possible initiatives
            -Dobrynin
      -Announcement
            -Public relations
            -Timing
      -Kissinger's possible call to Dobrynin
            -Formula
            -Specifics
            -Announcement
      -William P. Rogers' schedule
      -Dobrynin's schedule
      -President's position
      -Rogers' schedule
            -Gerard C. Smith
      -Soviet position
      -Possible US position
      -Politburo
      -Timing
      -President's position
      -Possible US proposal
            -Rogers' schedule
            -Rogers' position
            -Possible Kissinger initiatives
                  -Dobrynin
            -Arms limitations
                  -Assurances
            -Negotiations
            -Final agreement
-Issues
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-Summit meeting
      -Soviet expectations
      -Berlin
-Berlin
      -Soviet position
-Summit meeting
      -US position
      -Soviet position                               Conv. No. 487-21 (cont.)
      -Timing
      -Announcement
            -State visits
      -Soviet position
            -Berlin
-Berlin
      -Kissinger's schedule
            -Bob [Surname unknown]
      -Negotiations
      -Soviet strategy
-SALT
-PRC initiative
-SALT
-Arms limitation
      -Negotiations
      -US position
-Summit meeting
      -Timing
      -Negotiations
      -Dobrynin
            -US position
      -Timing
      -Rogers' schedule
      -President's possible initiative
      -Soviet position
      -President's possible initiative
-Kissinger's schedule
      -Woodstock meeting
-Summit meeting
      -Announcement
            -Timing
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     President's schedule
          -Meeting
          -Helicopter trip
                 -Time

Haldeman and Kissinger left at 3:36 pm.

                                                                  Conv. No. 487-21 (cont.)