Conversation: 503-015
Prev: 503-014 Next: 503-016Start Date: 21-May-1971 2:59 PM
End Date: 21-May-1971 3:39 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Shultz, George P.; Ehrlichman, John D.; Kissinger, Henry A.; Bull, Stephen B.;Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 02:21:57
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:56:00
NARA Description:
On May 21, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, George P. Shultz, John D. Ehrlichman, Henry A. Kissinger, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:59 pm to 3:39 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 503-015 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 503-15
Date: May 21, 1971
Time: 2:59 pm - 3:39 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.
President's schedule
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-January 8th
-John A. Scali
George P. Shultz and John D. Ehrlichman entered at 3:06 pm.
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
Bankers meeting in Munich
-Peter G. Peterson
-John B. Connally
-Size of US delegation
-Attendees
-Federal Reserve governors
-Treasury people Conv. No. 503-13 (cont.)
-Peterson
International Trade Hearings
-Shultz's testimony
-Paul J. Fannin
-Abraham A. Ribicoff', Russell B. Long
-Questions asked Shultz
-US policy on international economic matters
-US Senate
-World trade
-Senate's feelings toward State Department
-Ribicoff's views on Council of Economic Advisors [CEA]
-State Department's role
-Peterson
Peterson
-Congressional affairs
-Republicans
-James R. Schlesinger
-Intelligence field
-Defense
-Science
-Atomic Energy Commission [AEC]
-Peterson's views
-Appropriations
-Defense Department
-James C. Fletcher
-Chairmanship
-Schlesinger
-Peterson
-Schlesinger
-Peterson's plans for reorganizing AEC
-Connally's meeting with President
-Peterson's ideas
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Connally
-Staff
-Treasury compared to Housing and Urban Development [HUD], Department of
Transportation [DOT]
-Economic spokesman
-Peterson's interests in security and economics
-National security
-International economic and monetary problems Conv. No. 503-15 (cont.)
-Staff for Peterson
-Schlesinger
-Re-organization of government agencies
-AEC
-Head
-Schlesinger
-Peterson's interest in international trade
-Sugar
-Peterson's interest in a job in the intelligence field
-Government re-organization
-June
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Schlesinger
-Peterson
-Intelligence field
-Peterson
-Job for him
-Knowledge in intelligence field
-Schlesinger
-His paper on intelligence
-Budget
Jerome M. Rosow
-Assistant Secretary at Labor Department
-Return to Standard Oil
-His letter of resignation
-Effective date
Housing
-Integration
-Rev. Theodore S. Hesburgh
-HUD's statement
-Meeting on May 21, 1971 between Ehrlichman, Shultz, George W. Romney and
John N. Mitchell
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Meeting scheduled between them for next Thursday
-Blackjack, Missouri case
-Mitchell
-Courts
-Republican county executive of Blackjack, Missouri
-Ehrlichman
-Raymond K. Price, Jr.
Conv. No. 503-15 (cont.)
Environmental policy
-John C. Whitaker
-Polls
-Political significance
-Interest in by the White House
-Whitaker
-Louis P. Harris poll
-Whitaker
-Analysis of the polls
-Myth compared with fact
-Industry jobs
-William D. Ruckelshaus, Virginia H. Knauer, Peter M. Flanigan, Elliot L.
Richardson, Maurice H. Stans, James D. Hodgson, and Peterson
-Periodic meetings regarding the issue of guidelines on regulation
-President meeting with Nobel Peace Prize winner, Norman E. Borlaug
-Small wheat strains
-India, Pakistan, Mexico, Latin America
-Starvation
-Dichlorodephenyl trichloroethan [DDT]
-Pesticides
-Costs compared with benefits
-Ruckelshaus' views
-Pressure groups
-Anti-trust
-Subjecting his decisions to review
-Anti-trust activity
-Pesticides, DDT, environment safety, consumerism
-Universities
-College professors and associates
-Political costs of environmental public policy
-Unemployment
-Shultz's previous memo to Ruckelshaus
-Costs and gains
-Ruckelshaus
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Safety
-Consumerism
-Stans
-Environmental impact statement
-Stan's proposal
-Safety, consumerism
-Economic impact statement
-Cost in terms of jobs and business Conv. No. 503-15 (cont.)
-Cost to consumers
-Regulation
President's schedule
-Quadriad meeting May 21, 1971
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Shultz and Ehrlichman left and Kissinger entered at 3:34 pm.
Vietnam
-Casualties
-Battle report
-Statistics
-Accidental deaths
-Military casualties
-Acceptable figures
-Elections
-Nguyen Van Thieu
-National Assembly
-Ellsworth F. Bunker
-Electoral votes
-US liberals
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Bunker
-South Vietnamese elections
-US liberals
President's schedule
-Bunker's meeting with the President
Vietnam Conv. No. 503-15 (cont.)
-Bunker
-Kissinger's communications with the President
-William P. Rogers
-Out of the country
-Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
-Melvin R. Laird
-Rogers
-Announcement
-Bunker
-Rogers
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:34 pm.
President’s schedule
-Request for appointment
Kissinger, Haldeman and Bull left at 3:39 pm.