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Nixon & Hosmer on Southern California and Economic development

Friday, June 4, 1971 · 11:18 AM–11:20 AM ET · Oval Office · 3 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Hosmer, CraigConversation512-011 on Tape 512 (tape position 01:36:41–01:39:09)StartFriday, June 4, 1971 at 11:18 AMEndFriday, June 4, 1971 at 11:20 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 512-011 ↗ · National Archives Catalog, NAID 417177687 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon met with Congressman Craig Hosmer to coordinate efforts regarding the placement of federal energy projects in Southern California. Seeking to address regional unemployment and support the local aircraft industry, Nixon confirmed his intent to prioritize the state for new water and energy plant developments. He encouraged Hosmer to advocate for these California-based initiatives within bipartisan committees to ensure the projects receive necessary administrative support.

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On June 4, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Craig Hosmer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:18 am to 11:20 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 512-011 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 512-11

Date: June 4, 1971
Time: 11:18 am - 11:20 am
Location: Oval Office

The President talked with Craig Hosmer

[See Conversation No. 4-27]

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I wanted to know that he sent the message the day of the crash, but I just told Senator, I told Senator John Preston that my heart is tender to you and Hothill and so on and so forth.
It had been bugging me a lot.
The one thing I wanted to tell you too is that I, Hothill was there last night, and I told people around here, and this is going to be something we play very close to the feds,
But I am being ruthless on one thing.
Any activities that we possibly can should be placed in Southern California, in this field, and also in the safety of water people.
You know, we need the jobs.
We need to stop those aircraft workers.
We're going to do a couple of new things on water, for example.
I've decided to throw one big plant in Southern California.
I mean, you know, a big, one that's no money.
You know what I mean.
It's just a question of how big the plant is.
And this will be one to go there.
But it is energy, people.
And I've told Dr. David and, of course, Seabart and Rast to be good.
So on the committee, every time you have a chance, kneel and say, where's this going to be?
And I was pushing California to do that.
I didn't want you to know, but I wanted you to know that I was aware of your interest.
I knew you were out in California at the time of the meeting.
What he told me is, as a matter of fact, he told me when the plane was going down, he could slow down.
All right?
Well, if you talk, you might say that I know and find out that it's a bipartisan entity.
But the problem is that there are two things.
The problem of more energy is bipartisan.
And the problem of a clean environment, a clean source of energy, is bipartisan.
And this is something that we're going to work together on.
Okay?
All right.

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  • 004-026 11:14 AM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 11:14 am.
  • 512-008 11:14 AM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at 11:14 am.
  • 512-009 11:17 AM · 17 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman met in the Oval Office of the White House at 11:17 am.
  • 512-010 11:17 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:17 am to 11:18 am.
  • 004-027 11:18 AM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Craig Homer talked on the telephone from 11:18 am to 11:20 am.
  • 512-012 11:20 AM · 43 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, Stephen B. Bull, and John O. Pastore met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:20 am to 12:09 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 512-011, June 4, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives (NAID 417177687). Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/512-011 (accessed November 9, 2026).