Conversation: 517-004
Prev: 517-003 Next: 517-005Start Date: 11-Jun-1971 9:37 AM
End Date: 11-Jun-1971 10:36 AM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Sanchez, Manolo; Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Kissinger, Henry A.; Bull, Stephen B.;Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:01:54
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 00:54:13
NARA Description:
On June 11, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Manolo Sanchez, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Henry A. Kissinger, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:37 am to 10:36 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 517-004 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 517-4
Date: June 11, 1971
Time: 9:37 am - 10:36 am
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Manolo Sanchez
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Sanchez left and H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at 9:39 am
Henry A. Kissinger entered at 9:40 am
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Kissinger meeting with Lyndon B. Johnson
-Molly Furness [possibly Betty Furness?]
-Clark M. Clifford
Lawrence F. O’ Brien, Jr. statement in Christian Science Monitor
-Godfrey Sperling, Jr. breakfast
-President’s handling of Vietnam
-Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy attack on President Conv. No. 517-4 (cont.)
-Content of Kennedy statement
Vietnam
-Content of Kennedy attack on President
-Robert J. Dole rebuttal
-Hubert H. Humphrey
-Walter L. Cronkite, Jr. and Arthur O. Sulzberger
-Administration attack on Clifford
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-Johnson’s reaction
-Burning Tree Country Club
-Effect of Clifford attack on President
-President’s contact with Hanoi
-Clifford attack on President
-Support of newsmen
-Kissinger’s trip to New York
-Time commitment
-Contact with Sulzberger
-Talks with [Forename unknown] Franco, Henry Hubbard, Dan Rather
-Rather comment
-Negotiations
-Press
-Negotiations
-Hanoi
-Clifford
-Xuan Thuy
-Dr. David K. E. Bruce
-Problems of coverage
-Clifford
-French newsmen
-Working dinner on the Sequoia, June 10
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-William P. Rogers
-John B. Connally
-John D. Ehrlichman
-Drug policy
-Recall of five ambassadors
-Meeting
-Rogers
-Vietnam prisoners of war [POWs]
-Press conference
-POWs for withdrawal
-Effect of press coverage
-POW problem
-In relation to casualties
-Eventual freeing
-H. Ross Perot
-Connally’s reaction
-Plan to visit POWs
-Reduction of emphasis
-Melvin R. Laird’s role
-Reduction in POW emphasis
-POWs as an issue
-Treatment
-Drug problem
-Dr. Jerome H. Jaffe
-Shift in opinion of media and Congress
-George S. McGovern-Mark O. Hatfield debate
-Bipartisan House of Representatives resolution
-Timing
-Effect
-Administration prospects
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-Jacob K. Javits dinner
-George P. Shultz
-Ehrlichman
-Earl L. Butz [?]
-Professor [Forename unknown] Erickson
-Administration invitees
-Frank F. Church conversation with Kissinger
-McGovern-Hatfield prospects Conv. No. 517-4 (cont.)
-Need for cooperation between Senate and President
-Senate Resolution
-Content
-Previous dinner party
-Church remark
-Critics of Administration
-Real fears
-People’s Republic of China [PRC] initiative
-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] initiative
-Prospects of war’s end
-Clark MacGregor
-Houston Congressmen
-Bipartisan criticism
-Republican role
-Republican self-image
-MacGregor
-Congressional contacts
-Proffering of compromise resolutions
-Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield role
-Congressional actions
-Confidence of critics
-Impression of President
-Administration’s response
-Mansfield
Stephen B. Bull entered at unknown time after 9:42 am
President’s schedule
Bull left at unknown time before 10:33 am
Vietnam
-Polls
-Effect of criticism
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-Nature of criticism
-Benefit of initiatives
-PRC
-USSR
-Strategy of North Vietnamese
-Illusion of progress
-Public reaction
-June 26 Conv. No. 517-4 (cont.)
-Kissinger memo to President
-Xuan Thuy interview
-Separation of military and political issues
-Implications
-Casualties
-Related to earlier numbers
-John A. Scali role
-Press relations
-Cambodia
-Laos
PRC
-Trade efforts
-State Department involvement
-Rogers
-Winthrop G. Brown
-Press release
-State contribution
-Commerce Department
-Shipping requirements
-Peter G. Peterson
-Kissinger
-Labor contacts
-Jay Lovestone
-Labor complaints
-George Meany
-American bottoms
-Assurances to Kissinger
-Harry Bridges
-Thomas W. (“Teddy”) Gleason
-Packaging
-Union contacts
-Shultz role
-Willie J. Usery, Jr.
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-Gleason
-Grain
-Press play
-Credit to President
-PR role
-Rogers’ role
-Brown’s role
-Ziegler briefing Conv. No. 517-4 (cont.)
-Quality
-Scali public relations session
-Scali qualities
-PRC trade
-Marshall Green
-Early criticism
-Press release
-Wording
-Secretary of State
-Secretary of Commerce
-Details of trade initiation
-President’s role
-John N. Irwin, II
-State Department
-Spy from White House
International economics
-Connally
-Chile problems
-Expropriation of US Industry
-Guyana
-Chile
-Jamaica
-Long-term effect
-Rogers
-Primacy of US law
-Expropriation
-Effect on US business
-US competitive position
-Peterson’s report
-Industry by industry
-Robert B. Anderson statement in 1959 comparison
-Peter M. Flanigan
-Comparison with Great Britain
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-Economic decline
-US technology
-Rogers’ discussion with Willy Brandt
-Cooperation on Supersonic Transport [SST]
-German-American cooperation
-Status of US SST
-Advantages of SST over Concorde and Soviet SST
-Money and technology Conv. No. 517-4 (cont.)
-Flanigan
-Japanese
-Germans
-Cost to US
-Loss of technological leadership
-Benefit to US
-Tie to Germany
-Possible reaction by the British and French
-German-Soviet relations
-Connally
-Criticism
-European economic union
-Economic versus Defense integration
-Benefits
-Guyana
-US position
-Security for loans
-Kissinger’s call to Connally
-Chile
-Boeing 707 deal
-Export-Import [Ex-Im] Bank role
-Henry Kearns
-Chile’s reaction
-Banking conditions preventing expropriation
-Chile
-Connally
-Need for action
-Public perception
-State Department
-Pakistan
-Brazil
-Kissinger
-Assassination of Right Wing Christian Democrat
-Blame of Central Intelligence Agency [CIA]
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-Martial law
-Attack on US
-Military Support
-Levels
-Comparison to Brazil
-Kissinger’s call to Connally
State Department personnel Conv. No. 517-4 (cont.)
-Flanigan appointment
-Nathanial Samuels
-Tie to Peterson
-Benefits
-White House contacts
-Irwin
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-Direction of Flanigan effort
-Benefits
-Feedback on State Department personnel
-Flanigan White House role
International economics
-Loans
-Pierre-Paul Schweitzer
-International Monetary Fund [IMF]
-Pakistan
-Recipients of loans
-World Bank criteria for loans
-Connally
-Robert S. McNamara and Schweitzer
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-Ideological views
-Effect on policy
-McNamara meeting with Kissinger
-Pakistan Aid
-Kissinger’s talk with Connally
-IMF
-Ideological considerations
-Foreign governments’ domestic policies Conv. No. 517-4 (cont.)
-US reaction
-Double standard
-Czechoslovakia
-PRC
-Chile
-Military aid
-Salvador Allende Gossens
-Movement to one-party state
-Ex-Im Bank meeting
-General feeling
-Press control
-Treatment of military
-Police control
-Arguments for US pressure
-Further aid
-Connally
-Maurice H. Stans
-Interest
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FOREIGN AFFAIRS
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-Brazil
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-Support for US
-Territorial water limits
-Military nature of government
-William M. Rountree role
-International coffee agreement
-Message to ambassador
-Congressional action
-Reasons Conv. No. 517-4 (cont.)
-Forthcoming visit to US
-Message to ambassador
-Latin America section of State Department
-Ideological leanings
-Charles A. Meyer’s role
-Contact with Anastasio Somoza Debayle
-Liberalization of government
-Contact with Allende
Kissinger call to Connally
Meeting with Brazilian ambassador to US
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FOREIGN RELATIONS
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-Fishing problems
-Congressional problems with coffee agreement
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 12
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FOREIGN RELATIONS Conv. No. 517-4 (cont.)
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Kissinger and Haldeman left 10:36 am