Conversation: 535-004
Prev:  535-003 Next: 535-005Start Date: 2-Jul-1971 9:15 AM
End Date: 2-Jul-1971 10:39 AM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Colson, Charles W.; Flanigan, Peter M.; Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:12:57
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:40:21
NARA Description:
On July 2, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Charles W. Colson, and Peter M. Flanigan met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:15 am to 10:39 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 535-004 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 535-4 Date: July 2, 1971 Time: 9:15 am - 10:39 am Location: Oval Office The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman. Pentagon Papers case -William P. Rogers' appearance characterized -Foreign government reaction to case -Effect on foreign relations -Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT] documents -Effects of possible leaks -Henry A. Kissinger 3 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/08) North Vietnamese peace offering -Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield, Carl B. Albert -Media coverage -Congressional resolutions -National Liberation Front [NLF] -Congressional resolutions -Cooper-Church amendment -Congressional fund cut-off Conv. No. 535-4 (cont.) -US troops -John Sherman Cooper The President's forthcoming speech at the National Archives -The President's appearance July 3, 1971 with Chief Justice Warren E. Burger -Opening of the Bicentennial Era -Ronald L. Ziegler -News lead -Audience -Media coverage -Bicentennial Commission Pentagon Papers -Patrick J. Buchanan's recommendations -Lyndon B. Johnson, John F. Kennedy -Johnson Democrats -Support for the President on foreign policy -Relation to the President -Issuance of statements -Ziegler, the President The President's schedule -Charles W. Colson Campaign funds -Haldeman's meeting with John N. Mitchell -Control of funds -Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy -Monitoring during forthcoming campaign -Polls -Amount -Haldeman's forthcoming conversation with Herbert W. Kalmbach -Leonard Firestone -Polls 4 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/08) -Role of Domestic Council -Different types -John D. Ehrlichman -Payments -Funds for revenue sharing group -Milk Fund -1970 spending on film (?) -Leonard Garment Conv. No. 535-4 (cont.) -Private funds -Kalmbach’s role -Uses from the past -Amount -Congressional campaigns -President’s orders Colson entered at 9:28 am Unemployment statistics -Release -James D. Hodgson's forthcoming briefing -Congress -Joint Economic Committee -Gerald R. Ford, Hugh Scott, Charles H. Percy -Release of statements -Roger E. Johnson and staff -Responsibilities -Monthly decrease -John A. Scali's network contacts -News story -Significance Peter M. Flanigan entered at 10:02 am Unemployment statistics -Statistical aberration -Rate -Herbert Stein -Composition of the unemployed -Number of young people -Paul W. McCracken, Arthur F. Burns -Predictions on future unemployment trends -Forecasters 5 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/08) -Need to prove accuracy of projections -Psychological boost from decrease in unemployment Pentagon Papers case -Daniel Ellsberg -Outside assistance in gathering information -The President's July 1, 1971 conversation with J. Edgar Hoover -Impression of reluctance by the Federal Bureau of Investigation Conv. No.[FBI] 535-4 to (cont.) pursue the case -Possible call by Haldeman -Investigation of conspiracy -Need for conversation with Melvin R. Laird -Haldeman -Ehrlichman -Legal side of case -Coordination of anti-conspiracy effort -New York Times -Ehrlichman -Polygraph tests -President’s orders -Mitchell's knowledge -Persons needed for coordinator's role in the White House -Colson -Tom C. Huston -Need to begin the investigation -Mitchell -Need for prosecution -Ziegler -New York Times -Publication of documents -Impact on settlement of Vietnam war and return of the prisoners of war [POWs] -Draft Presidential statement from Buchanan -Administrations position -Mansfield, Albert -Focus of press coverage -Perception of newspaper publication of the documents -Timing of action by the President Newark, New Jersey -Mayor Kenneth A. Gibson -Appointment of seventeen-year old student to school board 6 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/08) Pentagon Papers case -Ellsberg -Mitchell -Newspaper publication of documents -Perception of Kennedy's reluctance to enter Vietnam war -Johnson -The President's citation of Kennedy and Johnson's role -News coverage limitation Conv. No. 535-4 (cont.) -The Kennedys -New York Times Review of Books -Forthcoming biographies -Rose F. Kennedy -Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis -M. V. Thayer -Ethel S. Kennedy -Comparison with Mrs. Nixon -White House reaction -Low level of response -July 6, 1971 use of television in Kansas City -John A. Scali -Recommendations -Timing Forthcoming news stories -Unemployment figures -Effect of July 4 weekend on news impact -Steel industry story -Presidential leadership The economy -Effect of unemployment figures -Burns -Impact of unemployment figures -Harris polls -President’s popularity -Productivity Commission -Edward Carter -Reaction to the President's appearance at meeting -John B. Connally -Recommendations on taxes, control, and spending -Retail sales figures -Sears, Roebuck and Company 7 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/08) -California -Forecast -Foreign imports -Connally -George P. Shultz, Peter G. Peterson -Japan -Business and unions -Farmers Conv. No. 535-4 (cont.) -Farm prices -Consumer prices Pentagon Papers -Need for conspiracy investigation -July 1, 1971 declassification meeting -Limited news release -Haldeman, Ehrlichman -Rand Corporation -Brookings Institution -Cut-off in access to classified information -Break-in -Removal of documents -Laird -Rand Corporation -Changes in handling classified information -Declassification -Washington Post article -Vietnam war -William F. Buckley, Jr. -Impact of issue -Protection of classified documents as opposed to repression of the press -Conspiracy investigation -Colson, Ehrlichman, and Haldeman -Laird, Hoover -Mitchell -Need for action -Neil Sheehan of the New York Times -Prosecutions in case -Ellsberg -[Forename unknown] Cooke -Elliot L. Richardson -Ellsberg's statement on involvement -Motivation 8 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/08) -Comparison to Alger Hiss ****************************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2 [Privacy] [Duration: 6s ] Conv. No. 535-4 (cont.) END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2 ****************************************************************************** -Hiss -Ellsberg -The Eastern liberal Establishment -Howard K. Smith -Vietnam issue -Jack Smith -James B. ("Scotty") Reston -Scali -Rogers’ statement Public Broadcasting Corporation -Anti-trust action -Peter M. Flanigan Pentagon Papers -Conspiracy investigation -Unnamed man from the United States Information Agency [USIA] -Richard V. Allen -Huston -Mitchell Television broadcasting -Anti-trust action -Mitchell -Film and television production -Control of product -Broadcasting networks 9 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/08) -Increase in production of programs, movies -Precedential effect -Federal Communications Commission [FCC] -Prime time access case -Independent networks -Gulf Oil request for Nixon-Cox wedding rebroadcast -Julian Goodman -Previous request on speech Conv. No. 535-4 (cont.) -National Broadcasting Corporation [NBC] -Control and influence -Mitchell -Cable Access Television [CATV] -Corporation for Public Broadcasting [CPB] -Board membership -John D. (“Jack”) Wrather, Jr. -Committee on standards -President of the Board -Democratic party affiliation -Funding cutbacks -National Education Television -CPB -Ford Foundation -Board members -Public Broadcasting Service [PBS] -Elizabeth Drew's program -Sesame Street -Jerry Slater -Previous position at CBS with Frank Stanton -Proposed evening news show -Yearly costs -Public broadcasting -Leverage over commercial networks -Cuts -NET and PBS “Sesame Street” -Changes in management -Cutbacks in funding -Government controlled networks -French, Canadian, British, Italian -PBS -Drew program -Viewership 10 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/08) -NBS’s “Today” show -Frank Pace, Jr., Wrather -William Moore (?) -Funding cutbacks -Possibility of passage of legislation by Congress Ambassadorial appointments Conv. No. 535-4 (cont.) Public Broadcasting Corporation -Funding cutbacks -Shultz Ambassadorial appointments -Japan -[Armin H. Meyer] -Background required for post -John B. Connally -Request for recommendations ****************************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3 [Privacy] [Duration: 21s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3 ****************************************************************************** -Need for business to fill post -Okinawa -Bert S. Cross -Frederic V. Malek's list of candidates -Flanigan’s list of candidates -[Forename unknown] (“Bud”) Humphrey, George T. Humphrey -Cross -Bart (“Tex”) [Surname unknown] -Connally -William J. Porter 11 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/08) -Transfer of Posting -Korea, Paris -Marshall Green ****************************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4 Conv. No. 535-4 (cont.) [Privacy] [Duration: 2m 34s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4 ****************************************************************************** -Japan -Requirements -Recommendations -Kissinger -Peter G. Peterson -Ambassadorial posts -Tokyo, Japan -Germany -Soviet Union [USSR] -Britain, France, Italy -Germany -Japan -(David) Kenneth Rush -Green -State Department -Qualifications -John D. Lodge -Kissinger’s concerns -Argentina -Finland -Financial situation 12 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/08) ****************************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5 [Privacy] [Duration: 21s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5 Conv. No. 535-4 (cont.) ****************************************************************************** -Austria -John F. Humes -Contributions -Finland -Val Peterson -Belgium -Raymond Guest -Contributions -Ireland -Don Strait -Wife -Contribution amount requested -Australia -John Sherman Cooper -Flanigan’s conversation with Mitchell -Louie B. Nunn -Primary election -Lodge -Argentina -J. William Middendorf, II -Return from assignment in the Netherlands -John J. (“Jack”) Caulfield -[Forename and surname unknown] -Ceylon -Netherlands -North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO] -State Department -Anthony D. Marshall -Ceylon 13 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/08) State Department -Rogers -Position for Flanigan -Economics specialist -Second undersecretary position -White House insider -1972 Campaign -Request for Flanigan to converse with Peterson and Connally Conv. No. 535-4 (cont.) -Subsequent meeting with the President and Haldeman -Connally’s view -Peterson’s view -Haldeman’s view -Flanigan’s view -Rogers’ reluctance -U. Alexis Johnson -Role Ambassadorial appointments -George Champion -Hobart D. (“Hobe”) Lewis ****************************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6 [Privacy] [Duration: 11s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6 ****************************************************************************** -Donald Mc I. Kendall -Japan -Champion -Cross -[Forename unknown] Tyson -John Bechtel -Bechtel Corporation -Type of ambassador required 14 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/08) -Free trade versus protectionist -Peterson’s recommendations -Connally’s recommendations State Department -Undersecretary position for Flanigan -Connally, Peterson, Haldeman, the President -Rogers Conv. No. 535-4 (cont.) -Policy -White House ****************************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7 [Privacy] [Duration: 4s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7 ****************************************************************************** -John N. Irwin, II -Effect of Pentagon Papers case -Rogers -Staff structure -Economic specialist -Provision of a balance to Peterson Haldeman and Flanigan left at 10:39 am