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Start Date: 13-Oct-1971 8:53 AM

End Date: 13-Oct-1971 11:06 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Butterfield, Alexander P.Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")White House operatorColson, Charles W.Nelsen, AncherBull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:12:10

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:15:53

590a.mp3

590b.mp3

590c.mp3

NARA Description:

On October 13, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander P. Butterfield, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, White House operator, Charles W. Colson, Ancher Nelsen, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:53 am and 11:06 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 590-002 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 590-2

Date: October 13, 1971
Time: Unknown between 8:53 am and 11:06 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Alexander P. Butterfield.
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                               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. 10/10)
                                                                     Conv. No. 590-2 (cont.)


     The President's schedule
          -Diplomatic credentials ceremonies
               -William P. Rogers
               -Secretary of State

H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at 9:00 am.

                      -Accreditation of diplomats
                 -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
                 -Forthcoming Presidential trips

Butterfield left at 9:05 am.

           -Public activities
                -Multiple sclerosis
                       -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
                             -Public relations
                             -Social events
           -John D. Ehrlichman
                -Washington, DC
                       -Press coverage
                             -Walter E. Washington
                             -Crime statistics
                       -Home rule
                             -Washington
                             -Rev. Walter E. Fauntroy
                             -Demonstrations
                                  -Problems

The President talked with White House operator at an unknown time between 8:53 am and 9:09
am.

[Conversation No. 590-2A]

[See Conversation No. 11-76]

[End of telephone conversation]
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/10)
                                                                     Conv. No. 590-2 (cont.)


     Washington, DC
         -Home rule
              -House of Representatives
              -Senate
              -Possible White House statement
              -Daniel P. Moynihan
              -Elections
                    -Mayor
                    -City Council
              -Julius Hobson
              -Fauntroy
              Police force
                    -Jerry V. Wilson
                    -Blacks
                    -J. Edgar Hoover

The President talked with Charles W. Colson between 9:09 am and 9:13 am.

[Conversation No. 590-2B]

[See Conversation No. 11-77]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Announcement of US-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] Summit
         -Clark MacGregor
              -Leaks
         -Henry A. Kissinger
         -Democrats

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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/10)
                                                                     Conv. No. 590-2 (cont.)



     The President's schedule
          -Funeral of Dean G. Acheson
               -Funeral of Hugo L. Black
          -Editorial Writers Association
               -Possibilities
               -Democrats
               -Ronald L. Ziegler
                      -Background rules
                           -Topics
          -World Series

The President talked with White House operator at an unknown time between 9:13 am and 9:22
am.

[Conversation No. 590-2C]

[See Conversation No. 11-78]

[End of telephone conversation]

     The President's schedule
          -Possibility of attending baseball game
               -Pittsburgh
                      -Radio
                      -Mrs. Nixon
                      -Julie and [Dwight] David Eisenhower, II

The President talked with Congressman Ancher Nelsen between 9:22 am and 9:25 am.

[Conversation No. 590-2D]

[See Conversation No. 11-79]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Nelsen
          -1968 political support
               -Minnesota
          -Age
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                               Tape Subject Log
                                 (rev. 10/10)
                                                               Conv. No. 590-2 (cont.)


The President's schedule
     -Editorial Writers Association
           -Herbert G. Klein
           -Television
           -Editorials
           -Washington Post
     -Baseball game
           -Julie Nixon Eisenhower
           -Ziegler
           -The Presidential prediction
                 -Pittsburgh Pirates
           -Richard A. Moore
     -Citizens for a New Prosperity
           -White House meeting
           -Robert B. Anderson
           -Dwayne O. Andreas
           -Dewey F. Barlett
           -Karl R. Bendetsen
           -Albert L. Cole
           -Richard P. Cooley
           -Roger Fleming
           -Patrick E. Haggerty
           -Najeeb E. Halaby
           -Peter M. Flanigan
           -Administration meetings
                 -John B. Connally
                 -Donald H. Rumsfeld, Paul W. McCracken, Arnold R. Weber, Peter G.
                        Peterson
           -Press conference
                 -Hobart D. Lewis
                 -Henry H. (“Joe”) Fowler
                 -J. Willard (“Bill”) Marriott
                 -Pierre Rinfret
           -Blair House
           -James W. Roche
     -Louis Harris
     -Citizens for a New Prosperity
           -Connally
           -Possible meeting
                 -Television and press
           -Possible lunch meeting
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                               Tape Subject Log
                                 (rev. 10/10)
                                                         Conv. No. 590-2 (cont.)


                -Possible pre-lunch reception
          -Lewis
          -Affiliations of members
                -General Federation of Women's Clubs
                -National Insurance Association
                -Chrysler Corporation
                -National Business League
                -Milk Producers
          -White House reception

Supreme Court appointees
     -Robert C. Byrd
     -Woman
          -Top contenders
          -Public relations
                -Mrs. Nixon
                -Julie Nixon Eisenhower
                -Tricia Nixon Cox
                -Women’s Liberation Movement
                -Moore
                      -William L. Safire
                      -Wire service reporter
                -Mrs. Nixon
     -Byrd
          -George S. McGovern
          -Mary McGrory

The President's schedule
     -Camp Hoover
           -Facilities
           -Lewis
           -Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo
           -Mrs. Nixon
           -Description
     -Leaders' meeting
           -Colson
           -Rogers
                 -Schedule
                       -New York
     -Pittsburgh
     -Kissinger
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 10/10)
                                                                   Conv. No. 590-2 (cont.)



The President’s trip to the People's Republic of China [PRC]
     -Secret Service
     -Communications
          -Size
     -Press
          -Size
          -Ziegler
          -Wire service
          -Network crew
          -Pool reports
          -Kissinger’s negotiations
          -Peter Lisagor
          -New York Times
          -Los Angeles Times
          -Pool reporters
                 -Wire services
                 -Television networks
          -Camera crews
          -"80" plan
                 -Associated Press [AP], United Press International [UPI]
                 -News weekly magazines
                       -Business Week, Life
                       -Time-Life, Newsweek, US News and World Report
                 -Television correspondents
          -Negotiations with the PRC
          -Wire services
                 -Newpapers
          -John A. Scali
                 -Ziegler
                       -The President’s view
          -Photographers
                 -AP
                 -UPI
                 -Reuters
          -Breakdown of press
          -Nixon Library
                 -Film footage
          -Kissinger
                 -Dwight L. Chapin
                 -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
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                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                  Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. 10/10)
                                                               Conv. No. 590-2 (cont.)


                   -Press breakdown
             -Scali’s view
             -Numbers compared with a trip to France
             -Wire servicea
             -Television
             -Secret Service


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             -Verbal communication maintenance
             -Telephones
             -Audiovisual support
                                      9

                NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                           Tape Subject Log
                             (rev. 10/10)
                                                     Conv. No. 590-2 (cont.)


-Accomodations
      -Peking
-Communications
      -WHCA
      -Secret Service
-Official party
      -Kissinger, Rogers
      -Speechwriter
-Speechwriter
      -Hypothetical contengency
            -Nikita S. Khrushev
            -Aleksei N. Kosygin
      -Patrick J. Buchanan
            -Haldeman’s view
            -Safire
            -Raymond K. Price, Jr.
            -Lee W. Huebner
            -Ziegler
                  -Gerald L. Warren
-Ziegler's possible assistants
      -J. Bruce Whelihan
      -Scali
      -Warren
-The President's close assistants
      -Haldeman
      -Chapin
-Secretaries
      -Kissinger
      -Rose Mary Woods
      -Rogers
      -Kissinger
            -John H. Holdridge
            -Winston Lord
            -Jonathan Howe
-State Department personnel
      -Rogers
      -Marshall Green
      -Alfred LeS. Jenkins
      -Emil (“Bob”) Mosbacher, Jr.
            -Chapin
            -Protocol
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                           Tape Subject Log
                             (rev. 10/10)
                                                    Conv. No. 590-2 (cont.)


                -Military aides
                -Stephen B. Bull
                -John V. Brennan
                -Craig S. Campbell
                -Vernon C. Coffey, Jr.
-General schedule
     -Kissinger
     -First day
           -Banquet
     -Second day
           -Chou En-lai
     -Third day
           -Chou En-lai
           -Mao Tse-tung
     -Fourth day
     -Fifth day
           -Shanghai, Canton
     -Sixth day
           -Mao Tse-tung
           -Great Wall visit
     -Seventh day
           -Chou En-lai
     -Discussion of schedule
     -Length of visit
           -The President’s view
           -Shanghai
                -Red guard
     -Kissinger
           -Chapin
           -Concerns
                -Romania, Yugoslavia
                -Josef Broz Tito
                -Nicolae Ceausescu
                -Chinese
           -Impressions of Chinese
           -Compared with Chou
     -Mrs. Nixon
     -Adele Rogers
     -Possible visit to pioneer camps
           -Implications
                -USSR
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                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/10)
                                                                      Conv. No. 590-2 (cont.)


                -Mrs. Nixon
                     -Kissinger
                          -Concerns
                                -Scali
                                      -Ziegler
                                      -John W. Chancellor

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 9:25 am.

     The President's schedule
          -Hughes
               -Walter R. Tkach's schedule

Bull left at an unknown time before 10:35 am.

          -Editorial writers
               -Schedule
                      -Pittsburgh
                            -Democrats
                      -Baseball game
                            -Length

     The Presidential trip to PRC
          -Kissinger
               -Communiqué
               -Purpose
                      -Khrushchev
          -Publicity
               -Compared with the President's trips to Romania, Yugoslavia
          -Kissinger
               -Scali
                      -Chapin
                             -Role
               -Schedule
                      -Chicago
                             -Charles H. Percy
                                   -Michael J. Mansfield Ammendment
                             -Jews
                      -Relationship with Haldeman
                             -Jewish dinner in Los Angeles
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                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/10)
                                                          Conv. No. 590-2 (cont.)


The President's relations with the media
     -Los Angeles Times
     -Rowland Evans and Robert D. Novak

Kissinger
     -Schedule
          -Chicago
                -Percy
                -Jews
     -Publicity
          -Klein
          -Ziegler
          -George Putnam
                -Chicago

The President’s trip to PRC
     -Security
          -Secret Service
          -Whca
          -Compared with the President's trip to Europe
          -Food

The President's schedule
     -Connally
     -Kissinger
     -Connally
     -Writers
          -Pittsburgh
     -Connally

Mrs. Nixon's schedule
     -Liberia
           -William R. Tolbert, Jr.
                -Inauguration
                -William F. (“Billy”) Graham
                -State Department
                      -David D. Newsom
     -Itinerary
     -Liberia
           -Advantages of trip
                -Latin Americans
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                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/10)
                                                                    Conv. No. 590-2 (cont.)



     The President's relations with Tolbert
          -Rogers
          -Graham
          -Mrs. Nixon
               -Adele Rogers

     The President’s trip to PRC
          -Kissinger
               -Implications of trip
                      -US Presidential election
               -Chou En-lai
          -Publicity
               -Television
               -Mrs. Nixon
               -Photographs
                      -The President's trip to Leningrad
                      -American people
                            -Attitude
                            -Chinese people
                                  -Chou En-lai
                                  -Mao Tse-tung
          -Kissinger
               -Mrs. Nixon
               -Advance work
               -Relationship with Chinese for trip arrangements
                      -Chapin
                      -Compared with trip arrangements for Europe
                            -Values of meetings
                                  -Intellectuals

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 9:25 am.

     The President's schedule
          -October 13, 1971: 5:00 pm

Bull left at an unknown time before 10:35 am.

     The President’s trip to PRC
          -Compared with trip to Italy
               -Meeting with representatives of political parties
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                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/10)
                                                                         Conv. No. 590-2 (cont.)


                       -Analogy with George C. Wallace, Black Panthers

Alexander P. Butterfield entered at 10:35 am.

     Dean G. Acheson
          -Flags
               -Ziegler
                    -Press
                         -The President’s order

Butterfield left at 10:37 am.

     Press

     The Presiden’s trip to PRC
          -Kissinger
                -Schedule
                      -European trips
          -Scali
          -Press
                -Chinese
                      -Scali
                            -[Forename unknown] Richardson Of AP
                                 -Ping-pong team visit to PRC
                                       -Publicity interests
                      -Kissinger
                            -Haile Selassie
                -Soviet official
                      -Tass news agency
                -Selassie
                      -Ethiopia
                            -Press coverage

     The President's schedule
          -Diplomatic credentials ceremonies
               -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
                      -Walter E. Washington
                      -Envoys
                           -Social functions

     The President’s trip to PRC
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                         Tape Subject Log
                           (rev. 10/10)
                                                   Conv. No. 590-2 (cont.)


-Ground station
-Number of press
      -Theodore H. White
      -New York Times
      -Numbers of media poeple
-Briefing book
      -Haig
      -Kissinger
      -Objectives of visit for both sides
      -Purpose for Kissinger
      -Schedule
      -Kissinger's Paris negotiations
      -Schedule
            -The President
            -Haig
            -Khrushchev
      -Kissinger's preparations
            -Haig
-United Nations [UN] debate on PRC and Taiwan
      -Jeffrey Hart
            -Book
            -Popular opinion
            -Column
      -Conservatives views
            -Human Events
      -Kissinger
      -US efforts to prevent expulsion
            -The President's efforts
                 -Italy, Great Britain
      -Rogers
      -George H.W. Bush’s efforts
            -James L. Buckley
            -Robert A. Taft, Jr.
            -Vacillating nations
                 -Panama
                 -Venezuela
                 -US efforts
                 -Connally
      -The President’s schedule
            -Congressman
      -Rogers
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                                 Tape Subject Log
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                                                            Conv. No. 590-2 (cont.)


                -Prediction
          -The President’s activities
          -Kissinger's activities
          -The President's possible activities
                -Smaller nations
     -Kissinger
          -Cabinet meeting
                -Rogers
                -Elliot L. Richardson
                      -Nguyen Van Thieu
                            -Melvin R. Laird
          -Cabinet officers
                -Connally
                -Robert H. Finch
                -Rumsfeld

The President's forthcoming trip to USSR
     -Historical importance
          -Staff realization of day's importance
                 -Congressional relations
                       -William E. Timmons
                 -Soviets
                 -Kissinger's briefing
          -The President's conversations
          -Proper attitude

Kissinger
     -Briefing books
           -Contracted with Daniel P. Moynihan
     -Contrasted with Rogers

The President's forthcoming trip to USSR
     -Handling of public relations
          -Press conference
                 -Arrangements
     -Haldeman's assessment of importance of announcement
          -Media editorials
                 -USSR
                 -Franklin D. Roosevelt's visit to Yalta
          -Ongoing stories
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                                      Tape Subject Log
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                                                               Conv. No. 590-2 (cont.)



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Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:37 am.

     The President's schedule
          -Event
               -Press
               -Ziegler

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:06 am.


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     The President's accomplishments
          -Rogers
          -Paris peace negotiations
          -Prisoners of war [POW] issue

     1972 campaign
          -Debates
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                                      Tape Subject Log
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                                                                     Conv. No. 590-2 (cont.)


               -Public statements
          -Economy
          -Campaign spending law

     The President's schedule
          -Diplomatic credentials presentation
               -Mosbacher
               -Use of the President's time
                      -Ziegler

Haldeman left at 11:06 am.

An unknown person entered at 11:06 am.

     The President's schedule

The President and the unknown person left at 11:06 am.