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Conversation: 596-003

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Start Date: 19-Oct-1971 10:14 AM

End Date: 19-Oct-1971 10:55 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Mitchell, John N.Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Bull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:08:25

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 00:49:27

596a.mp3

596b.mp3

NARA Description:

On October 19, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, John N. Mitchell, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:14 am to 10:55 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 596-003 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 596-3

Date: October 19, 1971
Time: 10:14 am - 10:55 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with John N. Mitchell.

     Greetings
          -Weather

     The President's schedule
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                        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. 10/06)
                                                                     Conv. No. 596-3 (cont.)


         -Previous evening event at the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts
              -Mitchell’s view
              -Mrs. J. Willard Marriott
              -Kennedy family


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Privacy]
[Duration: 7s ]


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                          -Kennedy supporters
                    -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                    -Board of Directors
                    -William D. Blair, Jr.

    Supreme Court appointments
         -Lewis F. Powell, Jr.
               -Mitchell's previous conversation with Powell
                    -Health concerns
               -Powell's schedule
               -Mitchell's forthcoming conversation with Lawrence E. Walsh
                    -American Bar Association [ABA] approval
         -Woman candidate
               -Mildred L. Lillie
                    -Chance of ABA approval
                           -Lillie's husband
         -William French Smith
         -Powell
               -Qualifications
         -Smith
         -Candidates
               -Corporate lawyers
         -ABA
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                NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                           Tape Subject Log
                             (rev. 10/06)
                                                            Conv. No. 596-3 (cont.)


-William H. Mulligan
      -Catholic
      -Age
      -Circuit Court of Appeals
      -Potential problems with ABA
-Powell
-Mulligan
      -Possible ABA vote
      -Length of time on court
-Political appeal
      -Smith
      -Mulligan
      -Woman
      -Smith
      -Mulligan
            -Mitchell’s assessment
      -Powell
      -Charles D. Breitel
            -Age
            -New York Court of Appeals
-Media
      -Liberals
-Powell
      -Health
      -Ability to perform duties
            -Mitchell’s previous conversation with Powell
      -Warren E. Burger
-George A. Tesoro
-Edward T. Gignoux
      -Mitchell’s view
-Age
      -Harold R. Tyler, Jr. and Walter R. Mansfield
      -Robert Braucher in Massachusetts
      -Professor at Harvard Law School
-Lillie
-Mulligan
-Burger’s assessment
      -Regional candidates
            -Northeast
                  -Tyler
                  -Mansfield
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               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                          Tape Subject Log
                            (rev. 10/06)
                                                          Conv. No. 596-3 (cont.)


                  -Mulligan and Breitel
                  -[Forename unknown] Lombard, Henry Jacob Friendly
                  -Paul C. Reardon
                  -Gignoux
                  -Mulligan
            -Approval by the ABA
                  -Mulligan
                  -[Unintelligible]
                  -John M. Harlan
-Distinguished candidates for the Court
      -The President’s view
      -Burger
      -Harry A. Blackmun
      -Problems
      -[Forename unknown] Wright
            -William O. Douglas
-Edward H. Levi
-Alfred Y. Kirkland
-ABA approval
      -Lillie
      -Smith
      -Mulligan
            -Previous ABA action
-Smith, Lillie
-Approval of the President's appointments
      -Breitel
      -Mansfield
      -Powell
            -Health
            -Howard H. Baker, Jr.
            -The President’s view
-Burger
      -Ages
-Mulligan
      -Dean of Fordham Law School
      -Catholic
      -Age
      -Harvard Law School
      -Nelson A. Rockefeller
-Smith
      -ABA
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               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                          Tape Subject Log
                            (rev. 10/06)
                                                    Conv. No. 596-3 (cont.)


     -Los Angeles
     -Corporate lawyer
-Powell
     -Background
            -Richmond
     -Municipal bonds
-Mulligan
-Qualifications
     -Deans of law schools
     -Age
-Leonard Garment's recommendations
     -Casper W. (“Cap”) Weinberger
            -Mitchell’s view
-Smith, Mulligan, Baker
     -ABA
            -Chances of Baker's approval
-Media
     -The President’s view
     -ABA
     -Burger
-Powell and Baker
     -Elimination of woman candidate
     -Baker, Mulligan, Powell
            -Baker's background
                 -Law practice
                 -Confirmation prospects
                       -Hugh Scott
                       -Robert P. Griffin
                 -Burger
                 -Douglas, Hugo Black
                 -Everett M. Dirksen
                 -Potter Stewart
                 -Senate
                 -ABA
-Mulligan
     -Compared with Baker
-Burger
-Dan H. Kuykendall
-Baker compared with William E. Brock, III
     -Busing
-Powell and Baker
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                          Tape Subject Log
                                            (rev. 10/06)
                                                                    Conv. No. 596-3 (cont.)


               -South
               -Senate
               -ABA
          -Robert C. Byrd
          -Haldeman
               -Leaks to press from White House staff
                     -Hugh Sidey
                     -Time-Life
          -Powell
          -Baker
               -Background
               -Forthcoming meeting with Mitchell

The President talked with Haldeman at an unknown time between 10:14 am and 10:50 am.

[Conversation No. 596-3A]

          -Baker
               -Age
               -Background

[End of telephone conversation]

          -ABA
               -Submit name
          -Baker substituted for Lillie

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:14 am.

     The President's schedule
          -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.'s secretary

Bull left at an unknown time before 10:50 am.

     Supreme Court appointments
          -Baker, Powell, Lillie
               -Approval
                    -ABA
                    -Charles S. Rhyne

Haldeman entered at 10:50 am.
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                             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                  Conv. No. 596-3 (cont.)



             -Baker
                  -Background

Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:50 am.

     John D. Ehrlichman

Bull left at an unknown time before 10:52 am.

     Supreme Court appointments
          -Baker
               -Education
               -Navy
               -Law school
               -Knoxville law firm

Haldeman left at 10:52 am.

     Supreme Court appointments
          -Approval
               -Byrd
               -ABA
               -Media
               -Baker and Powell
                     -South
                     -Clement F. Haynsworth
                           -Strom Thurmond
                     -G. Harrold Carswell
               -Elimination of woman candidate
               -Baker as lawyer
                     -Mitchell’s view
               -Powell
          -Walsh, forthcoming conversation with Mitchell
          -The President's options

     Plays

Mitchell left at 10:55 am.
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                               Conv. No. 596-3 (cont.)