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Start Date: 2-Dec-1971 12:21 PM

End Date: 2-Dec-1971 12:43 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)MacGregor, Clark

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:50:55

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:12:59

628a.mp3

628b.mp3

628c.mp3

NARA Description:

On December 2, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Clark MacGregor met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:21 pm to 12:43 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 628-006 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 628-6

Date: December 2, 1971
Time: 12:21 pm - 12:43 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Clark MacGregor.

     Golda Meir
          -Jews

     Tax bill
          -Conferees
          -Check off
          -Wilbur D. Mills proposal
               -John W. Byrnes
                                  11

               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                          Tape Subject Log
                            (rev. 10/06)
                                                           Conv. No. 628-6 (cont.)


           -President’s position
     -Three elements of Mills’ proposal
           -Check off concept retained
                 -Timing
           -Appropriations
           -Court test of constitutionality of the check off
     -1972 election
           -Mills’ gambit
           -Campaign promises
                 -The President’s remarks to the White House Conference on Aging,
                       December 2, 1971
                       -Possible approaches
                       -History of proposal
-Veto
     -History
-Congress
     -MacGregor’s view
-Mills
     -Thoughts
-Byrnes' reaction
     -Broadcast expenditures
           -Limitations
-Election
     -Democrats
     -Money in the fund
     -Provision of the law
-Check off
     -Taxpayers
           -Possible number
           -Percentage
-Veto
-Implementation
-Congress
     -The President's signature
           -Historian context
                 -President’s attitude
     -Appropriations
           -Possible veto
     -Mills
     -Democrats' and Republicans' votes
           -Speculation
                                        12

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 10/06)
                                                                 Conv. No. 628-6 (cont.)


           -Veto
           -Democrats
                 -Unpredictability
                 -Lawrence F. O'Brien, Jr.
                 -Local, county and district chairmen
                 -Joe D. Waggonner, Jr.
                       -Possible Democrat support
     -Check off defeat
           -MacGregor's recommendations
                 -Elimination of check-off
                 -Authorization of various expenditures
                       -Less chance of abuse of funds
           -Byrnes
     -The President's signature
     -MacGregor’s forthcoming meeting with Byrnes
     -Mills
           -Stake
     -House vote
           -Modified check off
     -President’s instructions
     -Check off defeat
           -Repeal
                 -The President's message
     -Business committee
           -Mills
                 -Possible action
     -MacGregor's statement
           -Distribution
           -Ronald L. Ziegler
                 -Follow-up
                 -President’s decision
                       -MacGregor’s statement
     -Mills
           -Possible change in vote
                 -President’s remarks to the White House Conference on Aging

Earl L. Butz's swearing-in
      -President’s schedule
            -Upcoming trip to Florida
      -Corn price support
            -Mills [?]
                                                 13

                             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                          Tape Subject Log
                                            (rev. 10/06)
                                                                         Conv. No. 628-6 (cont.)


                         -Hint of certain actions
                               -Possible withdrawal
                 -Cost
                       -Amount
                 -Taft-Hartley Act
                       -State Chairman
                       -County chairman
                             -Minneapolis
                                  -Previous call to MacGregor
                                       -President’s decision on Taft-Hartley Act
                                             -Impact on rural areas

     George Meany
         -Health
              -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman and John D. Ehrlichman
         -Meany’s attitude
              -Illness

     Meir
            -Meeting with the President

     Tax bill
          -The President's signature

MacGregor left at 12:43 pm.