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Start Date: 16-May-1972 8:14 AM

End Date: 16-May-1972 8:43 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haig, Alexander M., Jr.Lukash, William M.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:19:08

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 00:50:25

725a.mp3

725b.mp3

725c.mp3

NARA Description:

On May 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., and William M. Lukash met in the Oval Office of the White House from 8:14 am to 8:43 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 725-010 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 725-10

Date: May 16, 1972
Time: 8:14 am- 8:43 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Gen. Alexander M. Haig, Jr.

      George C. Wallace
         -Assassination attempt
               -Parallel to Vietnam War
               -Arthur H. Bremer
                    -Political affiliation
                           -Young Democrats
                                 -Wisconsin
                    -The President’s view

      Vietnam
          -Opposition
                -Eugene J. McCarthy's comments
          -Wallace
                -Hubert H. Humphrey's comments
                -George S. McGovern's comments
          -Comments about Lyndon B. Johnson's comments
          -Vietnamese casualties
                -Paul N. (“Pete”) McCloskey, Jr.
          -Military action
                -Hue
                -Press coverage
                      -Washington Post
                      -New York Times
                -Bastogne area
                      -Captured ammunition dump
                      -North Vietnamese casualties
                -Fire support base Nancy
                      -Air cavalry team
                      -Location
                      -Damage
                -Military Region II
                      -Damage
                      -Statistics
                      -Tube-loaded, optically-tracked, wire-guided weapons [TOWs]
                                              7

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. Jan-02)


                          -Effect on tanks
                          -Haig’s previous experience with tanks
               -An Loc
                     -Troop movements
                     -Damage
               -Air strikes
                     -Level
                     -Hanoi
                     -Railroads


The President talked with Dr. William M. Lukash between 8:19 and 8:25 am.

[Conversation No. 725-10A]


     [See Conversation No. 24-140]

     [End of telephone conversation]

     Vietnam
          -President's previous speech on the blockade
                -Psychological effect
                      -South Vietnamese
                      -North Vietnamese
                      -Soviets
                -Effect on Soviet summit
                      -US leadership
                -Effect on People’s Republic of China [PRC]
                      -Boeing trip
                            -Reception
                -Effect on North Vietnamese military actions
                -Press coverage
                      -Characterization of President
                -Soviet actions
                      -Czechoslovakia
                      -Hungary
                      -Timing
                      -Public opinion
                            -Washington, DC
                                 -Blacks
                                 -Louis P. Harris Poll
                                       -Results
                                 -Possible change
                                8

      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                       Tape Subject Log
                         (rev. Jan-02)


-Press coverage
      -Prisoners of War [POW] wives
      -Saratoga
      -Squadrons from Thailand
      -New carrier
            -Anti-submarine warfare [ASW]
      -Squadrons
            -Delay
-Air strikes in North Vietnam
      -Hanoi
      -Vankari[sp?] Pass
      -Damage
        -Petroleum, oil and lubricants [POL]
        -Trucks
        -Missile sites
      -Predicted effect
-Peace negotiations
      -Henry A. Kissinger
-Note from Aanatoliy F. Dobrynin
      -Activity in Paris
            -Plenary session
      -US actions
        -Effect on Soviets
        -Soviet summit
      -Previous North Vietnam position
-Military action
      -Intensity
      -Effect
      -Targets
            -Power plants
                  -President's interest
                  -Anthony Lewis
                  -Kissinger's statements to President
                        -The President’s view
                  -Duong Ha
                  -Location of main Hanoi plant
                  -Location of previous targets
                  -Haiphong
                  -Anti-aircraft control center
            -Effect
            -Compared to Colorado Springs
-Peace negotiations
      -Timing
            -Moscow trip
                             9

     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                     Tape Subject Log
                       (rev. Jan-02)


      -William J. Porter
            -Schedule
            -Haig’s view
            -Instructions
      -US proposal
            -Finality
            -POWs
            -Cease-fire
                  -Timing
-President's previous speech on the blockade
      -Richard M. Helms's position
            -National Security Council [NSC] meeting
      -Laird's position
      -William P. Rogers's position
      -Necessity
            -Press coverage
                  -Time
                  -Life
                  -Newsweek
            -Senate action
            -South Vietnam morale
      -Haig's opinion
      -Compared with 1968 situation
            -Nature of warfare
            -Cambodia
            -Sealanes
            -Railroad and POL targets
      -Haig's opinion
-Use of B-52s
      -Kissinger's opinion
      -Locations
            -South
            -Kontum area
            -North
      -Gen. Creighton W. Abrams, Jr.
-Previous US military actions
      -Cambodia
      -Laos
            -Effect
-Current US military actions
      -Effect
            -Soviet Union
            -PRC
            -North Vietnam
                                             10

                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Jan-02)


                          -South Vietnam
                               -Nguyen Van Thieu
                               -Commanders
                          -Cambodia
                               -Lon Nol
                               -North Vietnamese withdrawal
                               -Political situation
                          -Laos
                               -Enemy positions
                          -Peace settlement
                               -Compared to World War II
                               -Effect of US-Soviet Union and US-PRC relations
                          -South Vietnam
                               -Cambodia
                               -Laos
                               -Morale
                -Tanks
                     -Locations
                           -Central Highlands
                           -III corps
                     -World War I analogy
                           -Battle of Cambrai
                                 -Unknown book
                     -Abrams
                     -Location
                     -Numbers
                     -Instructions to Abrams
                           -Winston S. Churchill
                                 -Volume II of memoirs
                                 -Appendix: Tanks
                           -Location
                           -Number
                           -The President’s view
                           -Promotion
                                 -Laird

Haig left at 8:43 am