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Start Date: 7-Aug-1972 10:52 AM

End Date: 7-Aug-1972 11:24 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Bull, Stephen B.Train, Russell E.Cahn, RobertMacDonald, Gordon J. F.Ehrlichman, John D.Fairbanks, Richard M., IIISanchez, Manolo

Recording Device: Oval Office

763-014.mp3

NARA Description:

On August 7, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, Russell E. Train, Robert Cahn, Gordon J. F. MacDonald, John D. Ehrlichman, Richard M. Fairbanks, III, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:52 am to 11:24 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 763-014 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 763-14

Date: August 7, 1972
Time: 10:52 am - 11:24 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull, Russell E. Train, Robert Cahn, Gordon J. F.
MacDonald, John D. Ehrlichman and Richard M. Fairbanks.

       Greetings
             -Train
             -Cahn
             -MacDonald

       Third Annual Report of the Council on Environmental Quality[CEQ]
             -Air quality
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                        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. Nov-03)


       Photographs
            -Walk in Rose Garden
            -Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins
                  -Press

Bull left at an unknown time before 10:53 am.

       The President's schedule
            -Meeting with CEQ
                  -Report

       MacDonald’s forthcoming position at Dartmouth College

The President, Train, Cahn and MacDonald left at 10:53 am.

       John C. Whitaker’s [?] schedule

       Secret Service

       Weather

       Bernard Kalb

       Environmentalists

The President, Train, Cahn and MacDonald entered at 10:57 am.

[A portion of this conversation was not recorded on the original tape]

       Government disaster relief
            -Department of Housing and Urban Development [HUD]
            -White House news summary
                  -George W. Romney's trip to Pennsylvania
            -Supplemental appropriations for disaster relief
            -The President's schedule
                  -Previous visit to Harrisburg, Pennsylvania
                  -Previous meeting with group of mayors
            -Problems
                  -HUD
                  -Relationship between people and administrators of relief programs
                                              23

                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. Nov-03)

                         -Delays in assistance
                         -Untrained HUD employees

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 10:57 am.

       Refreshments

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 11:24 am.

       Government disaster relief
            -Conditions in Wilkes-Barre and Harrisburg
                 -The President’s view
                       -Coal and steel industries

       Presentation of Presidential gifts
            -Cuff links

       Environmental policy
            -Public expectations
                   -Compared to efforts to fight inflation
                         -August 15, 1971 price freeze
                                -Meat prices
            -Governmental efforts
                   -William D. Ruckelshaus
                   -Funding
                   -Speeches
            -Public fears
                   -Unknown movie
                   -News summary
            -Polls
                   -Public awareness of accomplishments
            -Status as a local issue
            -Public lands
                   -Environmental attitudes
                         -Protected beaches in Southern California
                                -Accessibility to public
                                     -Restrooms
                                     -Compared to municipal areas
                                            -Newport
                                            -Balboa
                                            -Malibu
                                  24

         NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                          Tape Subject Log
                            (rev. Nov-03)

                                -Santa Monica
             -Balance between preservation of beauty and use
      -National parks
             -CEQ annual report
             -Extent of public use
             -Property Review Board
      -Young people
             -Television
                   -Lack of exercise
             -The President's previous trip to Trabuco Canyon, California
                   -Unknown family in park
      -Possible CEQ role
             -Education of public
                   -Budget considerations
                         -Melvin R. Laird
                                -Request for funds
                   -Increase in enjoyment of and interest in the environment
      -The President's family's contribution to the New
       York Fresh Air Fund
             -New York Herald Tribune
             -New York Times
             -The President's mother [Hannah Milhous Nixon]
                   -Children from Harlem
                         -Experience on farm in Pennsylvania
                                -York
                                -Hanover
                         -Letters to Hannah Nixon
-Boy Scouts of America
-California beaches
      -Possible visits by poor kids
-Environmental concern as a fad
      -Intellectuals and upper middle class
      -Appeal to lower middle classes
             -Use of public areas
      -Interest of sportsmen
             -Advocacy for the environment
             -Blue collar status
-Recreational areas
      -Accessibility to urban residents
             -Transportation to areas
-Education
                                                25

                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Nov-03)

                   -Public interest in environment compared to government interest in
                   environment
             -Theodore Roosevelt
                   -Environmental achievements
                         -Gifford Pinchot
                         -Popularization of environmentalism
             -Present needs
                   -Greater appreciation of environment
             -Economic growth
                   -Balance with environmental concerns
                         -Florida
                         -Oregon
                         -Colorado
                         -Proper land use
             -Possible CEQ goal
                   -Interest in national, state and local parks
             -National parks
                   -Current congestion
             -Bohemian Grove
                   -The President’s view

Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:57 am.

       The President’s schedule

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:24 am.

             -The President's appreciation for work of the CEQ
                   -Public interest in the environment
                         -Example of highway project in the Everglades
                         -Visits to nature areas
                                -Example of senior citizens in rest homes
             -Television
                   -Impact on public
                         -Unknown cartoons
             -The President's legislative program
                   -Priority environmental issues
                         -Parks
                         -Urban areas
                                -Time spent in commute and in working areas
                                -Lead paint poisoning
                                                26

                        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                         Tape Subject Log
                                           (rev. Nov-03)

                                 -Rats
              -Urban areas
                    -Washington, DC neighborhood programs
                           -Walter E. Washington
                           -Shifts in attitudes
                                 -Gradual improvement in living conditions
                    -New York City
                           -Black, Puerto Rican, Irish, and Italian neighborhoods
                    -Miami
                           -Conditions
                                 -Slums
                    -Washington, DC
                           -Improvements
                                 -Crime
                                 -Tourism
                                        -The National Mall
                                        -Madison Hotel
                                 -Public safety
                                 -Possibility of a new baseball team
        Sports venues
              -Griffith Stadium
              -[RFK Stadium]
              -Rose Bowl
              -Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum
              -Rose Bowl

        Train’s forthcoming trip to the Soviet Union

        Dartmouth College
             -The President’s previous speech as a Senator

        Photographs
             -Arrangements
             -Atkins

Train, et al left at 11:24 am.