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Start Date: 7-Aug-1972 11:24 AM

End Date: 7-Aug-1972 1:18 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Ehrlichman, John D.Sanchez, Manolo

Recording Device: Oval Office

763-015.mp3

NARA Description:

On August 7, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:24 am and 1:18 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 763-015 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 763-15
                                                27

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Nov-03)

Date: August 7, 1972
Time: Unknown between 11:24 am and 1:18 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with John D. Ehrlichman.

       Council on Environmental Quality [CEQ]
            -Ehrlichman’s view
            -Russell E. Train
                  -Management of CEQ
            -Philosophy on environment
                  -Park usage

       Environment
            -Washington, DC
                 -Neighborhood cleanup program
                      -Use of local citizens
                      -Press coverage
                      -Walter E. Washington
                 -Blacks
                      -Ehrlichman’s view
                      -The President’s view
                      -Comer S. Coppie
                            -Personal pride
                      -Sense of family
                            -The President’s view

       Blacks
            -Living conditions
                  -Ehrlichman’s view
                        -Integration proposal

       Daniel Ellsberg
            -Delay of trial
                   -Timing of trial
                         -1972 election
            -Ehrlichman’s previous conversation with Chief Justice [Warren E. Burger]
                   -Inclination of Supreme Court to maintain summer vacation
            -Possible indictment of Neil Sheehan
                                      28

               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. Nov-03)


Jack N. Anderson
      -Henry A. Kissinger
      -Joint Chiefs of Staff [JCS]
      -[Charles E. Radford]
            -Wiretap
            -Surveillance

Lawrence F. O'Brien, Jr.
     -Internal Revenue Service [IRS] audit
           -Invitation for audit
           -O’Brien’s failure to appear for audit
           -George P. Shultz
           -Subpoena
     -Joseph N. Napolitan’s testimony
           -Howard R. Hughes money
                 -Division of money
                        -O'Brien
           -IRS investigation
     -Income
           -Report to IRS
           -Sources
     -Napolitan
           -Hughes money
                 -Receipt
                 -Report to IRS
     -Hughes
           -Potential problems
                 -F. Donald Nixon
                 -John H. Meier
           -Proposed contribution to Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo
                 -1968 Campaign
           -Maurice H. Stans and Herbert W. Kalmbach
                 -Receipt of funds
           -Rebozo
           -John N. Mitchell
           -Contributions
                 -Reporting
                        -Napolitan
                                             29

                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Nov-03)

                        -Shultz

       Robert D. (“Bobby”) Baker
            -Rose Mary Woods’s previous call to the President
                   -Baker’s previous call to Woods
                         -Rebozo
                         -Edmund S. Muskie
            -The President’s request for Rebozo to call Baker
            -Unknown secretary
            -Rebozo’s previous conversation with Baker
                   -Baker’s attitude toward George S. McGovern
                   -Information
                         -Muskie
                         -O'Brien
                   -Baker’s meeting with Rebozo
                         -George A. Smathers
            -Work with Lyndon B. Johnson
            -Compared to Victor A. Johnston
            -Information about Muskie, O'Brien
            -Gaylord Nelson

       O'Brien
             -Money from Hughes
                 -Reasons
                 -Amount

       Napolitan
            -Information about Democrats
            -Taxes
                  -Payment

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 11:24 am.

       Refreshments

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 1:18 pm.


       Napolitan
                                               30

                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. Nov-03)

             -Taxes

       Legislation
             -Assistance to railroads
                   -Smathers
                   -Mitchell
                   -Supporters of bill
                         -International Brotherhood of Teamsters
                         -Truckers
                         -Surface carriers
                         -Water carriers
                         -Smathers
                         -Truckers
                                -Contributions
                         -Teamsters
                                -Charles W. Colson
                         -Smathers
                                -Harley O. Staggers

Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 11:24 am.

       Refreshments

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 1:18 pm.

       Railroad assistance legislation
             -Drawbacks
                   -Trade-off of reforms
                         -Deregulation
                         -Smathers
                         -Contributions
                               -Truckers
                               -Railroads
                   -John A. Volpe
                         -Support on merits of bill
                               -Reforms
                   -Smathers
                   -Opposition to bill
                         -Staggers
                                      31

              NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                              Tape Subject Log
                                (rev. Nov-03)

                       -Smathers
           -Smathers
           -Contributions
           -Appearance of bailout for railroads
           -Railroad unions
           -Lobbyists
                  -Benjamin F. Biaggini
                  -Railroad problems
                        -Southern Pacific
                        -Union Pacific
           -Biaggini
           -McGovern
                  -Possible statement
           -Possible value to administration
                  -John B. Connally
           -Political impact of labor unions
                  -George Meany
                  -Contributions
                  -Votes
                  -Labor Unions

Water quality bill
     -Howard H. Baker, Jr.
           -Baker’s possible meeting with the President
                   -Baker’s pending reelection
                   -Pressure for passage
                   -Timing of vote
                         -Republican National Convention
     -Ehrlichman's view
           -Veto
                   -Higher taxes

Economy
     -Shultz's analysis
           -Growth
                 -Effect on revenues
                        -Department of Treasury
                        -Deficit
                                       32

               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                               Tape Subject Log
                                 (rev. Nov-03)

Federal blue-collar workers
     -Ehrlichman's option paper
     -Wage Board
     -Meany
            -Federal employee unions
                  -Kenneth R. Lyons
                  -John F. Griner
     -Proposed pay raise
            -Amount
                  -Budget impact
                        -Fiscal Year [FY] 1973
                        -FY 1974
                  -Comparability
                        -The President’s veto of previously proposed pay raise
            -Union responses
                  -Colson
                  -Passage of pay raise
                        -Griner's public endorsement of the President
                  -Veto of pay raise
                        -Griner's tacit support fr the President
            -Colson’s view
                  -Griner
                  -Lyons
            -Impact of pay raise
                  -States
                        -Maryland
                        -California
                        -District of Columbia
                        -Texas
                        -Virginia
                        -Maryland and California
                        -Hawaii
                        -Alaska
     -The President's view
     -Veto
            -Chances for sustainment in Congress
                  -Senate
                  -House of Representatives
            -Union reaction
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                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Nov-03)

                        -Impact on election

Ehrlichman left at an unknown time before 1:18 pm.