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Start Date: 7-Aug-1972 11:24 AM

End Date: 7-Aug-1972 1:18 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Ehrlichman, John D.Bull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

763-016.mp3

NARA Description:

On August 7, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:24 am and 1:18 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 763-016 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 763-16

Date: August 7, 1972
Time: Unknown between 11:24 am and 1:18 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with John D. Ehrlichman.

       Water quality bill
            -Budget impact
            -Restrictions on private industry
                  -Jobs
                  -Financial burdens
                  -Howard H. Baker, Jr.
            -Taxes compared to the environment
                  -Administration's position
                          -Justification of possible veto
                                 -Tax burden
                          -Portrayal of George S. McGovern
                                 -Spending
                                 -Compared to the President
                          -Jobs contrasted with the environment
                  -Issue in campaign
                          -Environmental concerns
                          -Control of taxes
                  -Clean water
                          -Administration's expenditures
            -Public relations [PR] staff
                  -Richard A. Moore
                  -Charles W. Colson
                  -John A. Scali
                  -Desmond J. Barker, Jr.
                  -Ronald L. Ziegler's representative
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. Nov-03)

                  -Clark MacGregor's representative
           -Political staff
                  -Bryce N. Harlow
                  -MacGregor
                  -John N. Mitchell
                  -Veto
                  -Mitchell
           -Possible Cabinet meeting
           -Republican leadership
                  -Hugh Scott
                        -Ehrlichman’s view

      Busing
           -Scott
           -Constitutional amendment
           -Rules Committee schedule
                  -Moratorium
                  -William M. Colmer
           -Vote on constitutional amendment
                  -Timing
                        -Republican National Convention
           -Congress
                  -Adjournment


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[Duration:     6m 10s ]


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      Food prices
           -Nature of issue
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         NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                         Tape Subject Log
                           (rev. Nov-03)

      -John B. Connally
      -Ehrlichman's previous conversations
             -Arthur F. Burns
             -George P. Shultz
             -Herbert Stein
             -Political staff
-Need for Connally’s view
      -Connanlly’s background as cattle grower
      -Connally’s role in the August 15, 1971 decision
      -Ehrlichman’s forthcoming meeting with Connally
-Farm Belt support for the Administration
      -Depth
      -Need for administration sensitivity to farm issues
-Burn's view
      -Profit margins
             -Effect on stock market
                    -New York
                    -New Jersey
             -Political impact
             -Inflation
             -Shultz
-Washington Post story
      -Corporate profits
-Ehrlichman's forthcoming memorandum to for the President
      -Forthcoming economic briefings for press
-Public relations
      -Robert Teeter
      -Burns
             -Conversations with bankers
                    -Hides
                    -Meat import quotas
                    -Hides
                          -Peter G. Peterson
                                -Use of authority as Secretary of Commerce
                    -Meat import quotas
      -Cattlemen
      -Sale of grain to the Soviet Union
      -Increase of farm income
-Harlow
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        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                        Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. Nov-03)

-John C. Whitaker
-Earl L. Butz
-Decline
      -Meat prices
-Meat prices
      -Connally
      -Voluntary freeze
            -Ehrlichman’s forthcoming conversation with Connally
            -San Clemente
      -Meat producers
            -Internal Revenue Service [IRS] investigations
            -Shultz
-Consumer Price Index [CPI]
-President’s possible meeting with food producers
      -Comparison with construction industry
            -Need for leader similar to John T. Dunlop
      -Background of possible leader
            -Academia
            -Business
      -Butz
            -Association with farmers
      -Possible Food Industry Stabilization Committee
            -Compared to Construction Industry Stabilization Committee
      -Donald McI. Kendall
            -Association with retailers
      -David Packard
      -Roger M. Blough
-Donald H. Rumsfeld
-Connally
      -Abilities
-Shultz
-Peterson
-Reform of business practices
      -Business
      -Labor
            -International Brotherhood of Teamsters
      -farmers
      -Processors
      -Jobbers
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Nov-03)

                 -Retailers
                 -Labor
            -Meat prices
                 -Decline
                 -IRS investigation of retailers

      President's schedule
            -The President’s forthcoming acceptance speech
            -Possible visit to Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania

      Disaster relief
            -Forthcoming memorandum to George W. Romney
                   -Romney’s forthcoming trip to Wilkes-Barre
            -Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) problems in Wilkes-Barre
                   -Delays in disaster assistance
            -Response by mayor of Wilkes-Barre
                   -The President's previous meeting with mayor’s group

      HUD
            -Budget
                 -Romney’s request for increase in staff
                     -Mortgage guarantees
                           -Delays
                                 -Mortgage Bankers Association of America
                           -Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger

      H.R.(“Bob”) Haldeman’s schedule

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal returnable]
[Duration:    17m 22s ]


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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                   Tape Subject Log
                                     (rev. Nov-03)

      White House staff
           -Haldeman's responsibilities
                -Alexander P. Butterfield
                -Movies
                       -Dwight L. Chapin
                -Haldeman’s meetings with the President
                -The President’s forthcoming meetings
                       -Connally
                -Scheduling
                       -Butterfield
                       -Stephen B. Bull
                       -Chapin
                       -David N. Parker
                       -Butterfield
                       -Parker


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[Duration:    56s     ]


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      White House staff
           -Scheduling
                -Parker
                       -Ehrlichman’s view
                -Haldeman
                -Parker compared with Chapin
                -Haldeman


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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. Nov-03)

BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
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[Duration:    2m 11s  ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4

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      The President's schedule
           -Forthcoming Republican Congressional leadership meetings
                 -Agendas
                        -Butterfield
                        -William E. Timmons
                        -Weinberger
                              -The Administration’s budget
                              -McGovern’s budget
                        -Butterfield
                              -Timmons
                              -Possible statements by participants of meeting
                        -Haldeman
                              -Butterfield
                              -Possible meeting with Timmons, Ehrlichman, and Henry A.
                              Kissinger
                        -Preparations for leadership meetings
                        -Colson
                        -The President's meeting with Ollie Matson
                 -Delegations of duty
                        -Butterfield
                 -Responses to McGovern charges
                        -Economic issue
                              -Scott
                              -Stein
                              -Political aspects
                                     -Weinberger
                                     -McGovern’s Budget
                 -Objectives for meetings
                        -Positioning compared to education
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               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. Nov-03)

Haldeman
     -Responsibilities in scheduling
          -Parker
          -The President’s previous trips to Florida and Maryland’s Eastern Shore
          [Thomas B. McCabe, Jr.’s residence]
          -Bull
          -Possible use of military aides or Secret Service
          -Parker

Staff responsibilities
       -Press relations
             -Ziegler
             -Herbert G. Klein
                    -The President’s view
                    -Ehrlichman’s view
             -Ziegler
             -Scheduling
                    -Butterfield
                          -The President’s personal schedule
                                 -Possible trips to Camp David
             -Parker
                    -Long range planning
                    -Events
             -The President's forthcoming trip to Hawaii
                    -Possible reception with Claire Booth Luce
                          -Need for political judgement
                                 -Haldeman
                          -Foreign affairs concerns
                          -Parker
                                 -Haldeman
                                 -Ehrlichman
             -Butterfield and Bull
                    -The President’s schedule
                          -Possible trips to Camp David
                          -Haldeman
       -Haldeman’s knowledge of polls
             -Haldeman’s judgement
       -Scheduling
             -Campaign events
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Nov-03)

                        -Haldeman
                        -Parker
           -Republican National Convention
           -Butterfield, Parker
           -Campaign scheduling
                 -Haldeman
                 -Parker
           -Haldeman’s staff
                 -Compared with Ehrlichman's staff
                        -Unknown person
                 -Possible senior deputy
                        -Chapin
                              -Responsibilities
                                    -Special events planning
                                    -Campaign planning
                        -Egil (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.
                        -Possible loan from Ehrlichman’s staff
                              -Edward L. Morgan

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[Duration:    2m 12s  ]


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      Campaign
          -Dwayne O. Andreas
                 -Announcement
                 -Gift tax
                        -John W. Dean, III
                 -MacGregor
                 -Size of contribution
          -Phillip S. (“Sam”) Hughes
                 -Possible contacts with administration
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                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. Nov-03)

                           -Harlow
             -Andreas
                  -Gift tax
                  -Cash contribution

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
[Personal returnable]
[Duration:    5m 55s  ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6

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       Campaign
           -Campaign contributors
                -The President’s possible contacts with contributors
                      -1968 campaign
           -Douglas W. Inglish, Jr.
                -Mitchell
                -Previous conversation with US Postal Service official [James T. Blair]
                      -Loan [for Cyrus Katzen]
                -Thomas B. Evans
                -Separation between Republican National Committee and the government
                      -Example of Guy G. Gabrielson
                -Maurice H. Stans
                -Evans
                -Robert J. Dole
           -Andreas
                -Funds to Rose Mary Woods

       Ehrlichman's schedule
             -Forthcoming meeting with Connally

Bull entered at 1:18 pm.
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                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Nov-03)

Ehrlichman left at 1:18 pm.

       The President's schedule
            -Forthcoming meeting with Colson

Bull left at an unknown time between 1:18 pm and 1:22 pm.