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Start Date: 14-Sep-1972 12:02 PM

End Date: 14-Sep-1972 12:45 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Rizzo, Frank L.Carlson, John G.White House photographerEhrlichman, John D.Cole, Kenneth R., Jr.

Recording Device: Oval Office

776-015.mp3

NARA Description:

On September 14, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Frank L. Rizzo, John G. Carlson, White House photographer, John D. Ehrlichman, and Kenneth R. Cole, Jr. met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:02 pm to 12:45 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 776-015 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 776-15

Date: September 14, 1972
Time: 12:02 pm - 12:45 pm
Location: Oval Office


The President met with Frank L. Rizzo, Anthony Zecca, Paul Klieman, Anthony Cortegene,
Joseph O'Neill, Vincent Furlong, John Field, Donna Agnew, Nora Kramer, Marilyn M. Scott,
Louis Farrar, Robert Anatasia, Anthony Longo, Steven Kapustiak, Michael McPoyle, Nelson
Ramirez, John Sims, and John G. Carlson.

[The White House photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting.]

             Greetings and introductions
                 -Longo
                 -Sims

             [Photograph session]
                 -Logistics
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             Photograph
                 -Copies

             Press

             Philadelphia
                 -Clothier
                 -Benjamin Freeman

             Presentation of petition
                 -[Photograph session]

John D. Ehrlichman, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr. and members of the press entered at 12:13 pm.

             Introduction of members of the press
                  -Andrew Mitchell
                      -KYW
                  -Fred Hamilton
                      -Philadelphia Bulletin
                  -Norm Pasco
                  -Max Williams
                      -KYW-TV
                  -Howie Meyer
                      -Daily news
                      -Channel 10-TV
                  -Unknown woman

             Washington Redskins

             Presentation of gifts
                 -Members of the press
                 -Cufflinks

             White House decorations
                -Presidential seal
                     -Rug
                     -Flag
                -Painting
                     -Unknown British artist
                     -Potomac River
                -State gifts
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                     -Mexican president
                 -Trees
                 -Walter H. Annenberg
                     -Steuben glass
                     -Philadelphia Inquirer

             Parting remarks
                  -Rizzo
                  -White House tour
                  -Unknown person

Members of the Philadelphia Police Athletic League, Carlson, members of the press, and the
White House photographer left at 12:16 pm.

             Photograph
                 -Tom Fox
                     -Ehrlichman and Cole

             Election 1972
                 -Rally for George S. McGovern
                      -Mary Jo Kopechne
                 -Newspaper column author
                      -[Thomas] Woodrow Wilson

             Philadelphia
                 -Revenue sharing
                 -Nelson A. Rockefeller
                      -New York
                 -Pledge of Administration aid
                      -Announcement of aid
                          -Ehrlichman
                          -Timing
                 -Rizzo support for the President
                      -The President's Philadelphia electoral outlook
                      -Milton J. Shapp
                      -John R. Bunting, Jr.
                          -Support for McGovern
                          -International Exposition
                          -Opposition to the President
                          -Rizzo
                          -Richard Bond
                          -Everly Murphy
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             -Annenberg
             -Philadelphia treasury funds
             -Philadelphia Inquirer
                  -Harry Karafin
                      -Jail term
                      -First Pennsylvania Bank
    -First Pennsylvania Bank
         -Possible administration actions
         -Ehrlichman
         -Cole
         -Tax information
             -Bunting tax returns
             -George P. Shultz
                  -Federal funds
             -Bunting
                  -Assistance to Shapp
                      -McGovern
                  -Chairman of citzens' committee
                  -McGovern
                  -Xerox
                      -Support for McGovern
                      -Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger
                           -General Services Administration [GSA]
                                -International Business Machines [IBM]
                                -Xerox
                      -Xerox General Manager
                      -Philadelphia business law firms

Presentation of gift
    -Cole

Pledge of White House aid to Philadelphia

Forthcoming presidential election
    -McGovern
        -Rockefeller
        -The President's campaign strategy
            -Presidential duties and responsibilities
    -The President's schedule
        -Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania
        -Texas
            -Democrats for Nixon
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            -High school visit

The President's schedule
    -Advantages of incumbency
        -Rizzo’s view
    -Campaign tactics

McGovern’s visit to Philadelphia
   -City Hall site event
       -Hecklers
       -Chappaquiddick
       -Kennedy
       -Shapp
       -Philadelphia police commissioner
           -Joseph O'Neill

Forthcoming presidential election
    -The President's Philadelphia votes
        -Lack of blacks' support
        -Jewish vote
            -Rizzo's Jewish support
            -Vietnam War
            -Israel
                 -The President’s policy
    -McGovern
        -Television interview in Philadelphia
        -Larry Kane
        -Support for Israel
            -Invasion of Israel
            -Ground troop commitment
        -McGovern stance on Navy
            -Vietnam withdrawal
        -Television interview in Philadelphia
            -Kane
            -Shapp's effect on McGovern campaign
            -Rizzo support
        -Campaign literature
            -Rizzo’s actions
    -McGovern campaign
        -Kennedy appearance
        -Effect on results
        -Cole
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                  -McGovern programs
                       -Kennedy
              -Nixon-McGovern debate
                  -Possibility of debate
                       -Public comments
              -McGovern's program
                  -Troops in Thailand
                  -Welfare program
                  -Homosexual marriage
                  -Rizzo’s comments
                       -Rizzo's police experience
                       -Socialism compared with free enterprise
                  -Jay Lovestone’s view
                       -Meany
                       -Sources of McGovern’s support
              -McGovern voting record
                  -Revenue sharing vote
                  -Effect on Philadelphia
              -Support for the President
                  -Joseph Alioto
                       -Bid for Governor
                       -Revenue sharing bill
                            -Signing ceremony
                                -Alioto’s attendance
                       -Mayors conference
                       -Support for the President

          Mayors conference
             -John V. Lindsay
                  -Rockefeller
                      -Joke

          Rizzo’s comments on Thomas F. Eagleton’s withdrawal


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              Rizzo
                  -John Cardinal Krol
                      -The President's wishes
                  -Previous remarks

Rizzo et al. left at 12:45 pm.