Conversation: 798-004
Prev: 798-003 Next: 798-005Start Date: 14-Oct-1972 10:03 AM
End Date: 14-Oct-1972 10:39 AM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); [Unknown person(s)]; Kissinger, Henry A.; Bull, Stephen B.; Hogness, John (Dr.); Kernodle, John R. (Dr.); David, Edward E., Jr. (Dr.); Tkach, Walter R. (Dr.); Cavanaugh, James H.; Wei-jan, Wu (Dr.); Yi-chen, Fu (Dr.); Chiao-chih, Lin (Dr.); Hsueh-yu, Wu (Dr.); Yen-shan, Li (Dr.); Chuan-yen, Chu (Dr.); Shih-lien, Liu; Jui, Han (Dr.); Kuan-han, Chou (Dr.); Shu-shun, Chang (Dr.); Chia-yu, Hsu (Dr.); Lien-sheng, Wang; Tsung-ming, Lu; Tseng-yi, Tai; White House photographer;Recording Device: Oval Office
NARA Description:
On October 14, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, staff, and physicians from a delegation from the People's Republic of China, including Henry A. Kissinger, Stephen B. Bull, Dr. John Hogness, Dr. John R. Kernodle, Dr. Edward E. David, Jr., Dr. Walter R. Tkach, James H. Cavanaugh, unknown person(s), Dr. Wu Wei-jan, Dr. Fu Yi-chen, Dr. Lin Chiao-chih, Dr. Wu Hsueh-yu, Dr. Li Yen-shan, Dr. Chu Chuan-yan, Dr. Liu Shih-lien, Dr. Han Jui, Dr. Chou Kuan-han, Dr. Chang Shu-shun, Dr. Hsu Chia-yu, Wang Lien-sheng, Lu Tsung-ming, and Tai Tseng-yi, members of the press, and the White House photographer, met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:03 am to 10:39 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 798-004 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 798-4
Date: October 14, 1972
Time: 10:03 am - 10:39 am
Location: Oval Office
The President met with an unknown man at 10:03 am.
Henry A. Kissinger entered and the unknown man left at 10:03 a.m.
Stephen B. Bull entered at 10:04 am.
The President's schedule
-Chinese doctors
-Dr. John Hogness
-Dr. Wu Wei-jan
-Photograph opportunity
-Press
-Gifts
-Cuff links
Bull left at 10:04 am.
The President's and Kissinger’s schedule
-Camp David
-Radio Address on Crime and Drug Abuse, October 15, 1972
-Meetings
-Paris
Hogness, Dr. John R. Kernodle, Dr. Edward E. David, Jr., Gen. Walter R. Tkach, James H.
Cavanaugh, Wu Wei-jan, Fu Yi-chen, Lin Chiao-chih, Wu Hsueh-yu, Li Yen-shan, Chu Chuan-
yan, Liu Shih-lien, Han Jui, Chou Kuan-han, Chang Shu-shun, Hsu Chia-yu, Wang Lien-sheng,
Lu Tsung-ming, and Tai Tseng-yi entered at 10:04 am.; members of the press and the White
House photographer were present at the beginning of the meeting.
Introductions
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
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[Photograph session]
-Dr. Wu
James B. ("Scotty") Reston
-Operation
-Birthday
The President's welcome remarks
-Scientific and medical exchanges between the People's Republic of China [PRC]
and US
-The President's trip to Peking
-Cure for diseases
-Cancer
-US research program begun in 1971
-The President’s conversation with PRC leader
-The best medical minds working for a cure
-Importance
-Health facilities
-The President's health
-Appendix
US visit
-Arrangements
PRC
-Women doctors
-Numbers and quality
-Compared to male doctors
Gift presentations
-Pins
-Presidential seal
-Cuff links
-Presidential seal
The President's regards to PRC leaders
-Chou En-lai
Gift from PRC
-Bonsai tree
-Age
PRC leaders regards to the President
-Chou En-lai
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
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Mao Tse-tung
White House tour
Everyone except Kissinger left at 10:19 am.
US-PRC relations
-Recent meeting with Chinese doctors
-Chou En-lai
-Schedule and treatment of visitors
-Mao Tse-tung
-Vietnam War
US-Soviet Union maritime agreement
-New York Times
-Timing of treaty signing
-Leak
-Negotiations
-Peter G. Peterson
-Soviets
-Shipping price
-Peterson
-Previous conversation with Kissinger
-Shipping price
-Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
Previous meeting with Kissinger
-Peterson
-Leonid I. Brezhnev
-Lend-lease agreement
-Peterson
-Publicity
-Peterson’s efforts
US-Soviet Union trade agreement
-Timing
-Kissinger's schedule
Kissinger’s schedule
-The President’s schedule
-Camp David
-Possible photograph opportunity
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
Vietnam negotiations
-Nguyen Van Thieu
-Relations with the President
-Possible statement
-Ellsworth F. Bunker
-Gen. Creighton W. Abrams, Jr.
-Kissinger’s view
-State Department
-Coalition government
-Media speculation
-Hanoi
-US strategy
-Reduction of bombing
-Timing
-Sorties
-Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting with Xuan Thuy
-Changes
-Thieu
-Bunker
-The President’s trustworthiness
-Settlement announcement
Content
-Kissinger
-Hanoi
-Saigon
-Possible leak
-Relationship to 1972 election
-Thieu’s survival
-Possible coup
-Possible military activity
-Comparison to India
-Kissinger's schedule
-Saigon
-William H. Sullivan
-Xuan Thuy
-William P. Rogers
-Sullivan
-Communications
-Political aspects
-1972 election
-Thieu
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-Hanoi
-Publicity
-Effect
-Kissinger's schedule
-Saigon
-Paris
-Le Duc Tho
-Post-1972 election possibilities
-Bombing halt
-Kissinger's schedule scenario
-Saigon
-Thieu
-Sullivan’s schedule
-Bangkok, Vientiane, Phnom Penh
-Kissinger’s possible trip to Hanoi
-Phillip C. Habib
-South Korea
-Hanoi
-Cease-fire
-Hanoi
-Bombing halt
-Twentieth Parallel
-Announcement
-Compared to leak
-Reaction
-Navy, Army, Air Force
-Procedure for proposed action
-Saigon
-Washington, DC
-The President's television appearance
-October 25, 1972
-Cease fire, October 26, 1972
-Kissinger’s view of Hanoi trip
-Pressure for settlement
-Laos, Cambodia
-Le Duc Tho
-Peking trip
-Thieu
-Agreement possibility
-Possible scenarios
-State Department and Sullivan
-International commissions
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-Semantics
-Agreement quality
-Media relations
-Hanoi
-Political statement
-Possible leak
-The President’s possible statement
-Transportation
-Power unit
-French consulate
-Areas of discussion with Thieu
Kissinger left at 10:39 am.