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That's another new backup for you.

I'll tell you what you do.

Find all of the silver pens that I've got.

There may be one on the desk over there.

There may be one here.

Whatever they are, the points change.

See, they're the best by far, the best ants, and I like them the best, except that the points that wear out, they go very fast because of the, you know, they don't take pressure.

And the other points change, so that can happen.

Maybe back on the wick they are, the points are okay, as far as the size.

They're not large.

Maybe that's part of the problem.

Yeah, they're hard to get in.

I think medium will be better.

Medium points.

Maybe that's the problem.

I mentioned this in the past, I don't know if she did know it, and that they got me a bedside notebook.

I remember, and we definitely did.

Right, right, right.

I need one, and you might have mentioned it to Tricia, that's the best way to get it in the summer when it's usually gone.

I would like to have one again.

You know what would be fine?

It would be this way.

Those little left angles that have a, that stick to the marker because then we've got to reach it.

Now, if there are, may I say this, maybe, I don't have that exact one, but I guess we need one with a stronger paper, this shape, even that doesn't matter.

You can check around and see whether there's some spikes or anything.

And then if they fall, I need them anyway, because I use notepads a great deal.

You don't like the little ones they use, like on a pad?

That's too small, isn't it?

They're too small, yeah.

The ones in the captain's table are too small.

I need a size about that or slightly bigger so that I can write it.

That size is fine.

And hers was probably a little too heavy to take, but it's all right.

It's better than any I can see.

You know, they don't make many things like that because most of them make those up extensively.

But one about this size would be fine.

Yes.

Maybe Becker's might have it.

I'll go look at Becker's, and I can't wait to look for it.

Why don't you go look for it?

I'll go look for three of those.

It's a great thing.

It's a great client, but it worked out to be very good.

And it's a special guest of mine, which they should do.

In fact, she's in the University of Southern Oklahoma.

She's also staying with Shabbat.

And...

It's a big group that I'm so sure I can pray.

John Wayne is going to be a grand marshy.

And I have built.

She's exactly the right man.

If I had been the man in the car with her, then of course.

Well, that isn't right.

She should get the honors.

She's not going to spend the period over there.

I mean, she should be paid for it.

She should spend it.

She should help all the relatives and the jobs.

I'll let you guys have a good chat in California.

Isn't this a sad thing?

It is.

Well, Father told me that Firestone was going to entertain the men who had given the most and then make a pitch for Bob, I think.

Maybe not a pitch for Bob.

I just know that he's going to declare that.

Whatever it is for Bob, you know, I'm all for it.

All for it.

I know.

Well, he's fine.

He's all right.

I told Pat I'm already going to be at Camp David.

I should be bringing her up there, but it's all right.

But you're going to go by that California when I understand, right?

Yes, yes.

I'll come that time.

I'll just come down and do it.

I've got to be at Camp David all week next week.

Of course, she's coming back for Christmas.

Rosebud, we're going to see if Jack is with her.

And that he will come and pop it up there.

And if so, I will, what I will do is just move my sight of being here.

And I'll just get the hell out of there.

Because I'm not going to go through, I'm not going to expose myself.

Does it have been changed?

Yes, it was, sir.

Yes.

Oh, good.

Thank you.

Well...

Okay.

And, and... For them to announce, you know, it's a goddamn shame, Rose.

Knowing that this time, I mean, they can't... Knowing that this time it really would be a crime.

And for them to announce that they're going to bust it at the White House, it is mind-boggling.

I just don't worry about it.

Whichever way they play it, you just do the opposite.

Just don't let them take up your time.

They go up there, you come down here.

And have them all have a drink.

And then they can walk the hell out over to the other place you see them.

Go to the other place and have their dinner.

And I'll get on the helicopter and call them if you need me.

Okay.

Very good.

I really think it's going to mean a lot more, even though some of the most of the men have to be in the White House than they used to go to the Blair House on the

You know, I've got a bad defense.

She's going to have the kitchen man come back.

They're going to break her arm.

They're going to put the kitchen in the lunch.

Did she ever approve of the kitchen mask?

She did, didn't she?

That's done.

Is that all done now?

Well, it was approved, so I assume it's done.

And I also do the upstairs, third floor, do it over, make it nice.

It's horrible the way the Johnson's are there.

It's unbelievably bad.

It was gross.

Because it isn't anything.

It looks just like you'd see in Texas, but they have no taste on it.

And so I just said, you know, let's use that.

You see, we use it to eat in the West Hall.

That'll give, for example, if I'm using it, if Pat and I are using it, the kids can go up there.

Julie often has guests, and they can use that.

Or on occasion, I can go up there, and when Pat's busy, I'm going to go to the ball game.

Okay.

So I was thinking, what we would do would be to go to Florida or California for Christmas.

And then a thought occurred to me that we'd be right in the fire again because we have all the relatives in the grounds.

Now, as far as the relatives are concerned, I'm not worried about that because they're all coming to the inauguration virtually, you know?

And so they'll be there.

Well, thank you for having us on holiday today.

I know that, frankly speaking, we've gone and we've got a hell of a problem with him and so forth.

We're just not going to have a dad or mother.

We've got the crown, so, you know, we've got to be around that dad track over and over again.

So I think we want to stay, I'm going to stay with Florida, so I've got to work anyway.

I don't know.

I can find out.

I don't know.

I can find out.

Right.

You underlined a lot of the letter from Gabe Howie, but you didn't say anything about it when I came back.

Nothing on tape.

Did you have any thoughts about it?

No, I didn't.

Just ignore it.

I mean, I think he was on top of it.

I think you had to do something to it.

Yeah, I know what it was.

I guess you did.

Just giving a letter, ignoring that part, or just thanking him for suggesting it?

Yeah.

I just, I always appreciated his very wise and his, appreciated his, well, get the ones, the one that I wrote you before.

He's written about me, you know.

Yeah.

He didn't like the controls policy.

He didn't like the Vietnam policy.

No, we can answer it.

I just didn't know whether you were answering it.

I can't believe it.

So this is no surprise.

There's not a letter.

Yes.

I understand that, I know why you sent it in, but that's the point is that I'm quite aware that in Gabe's case, the others, I could get a warm-up, but on this one I'm just not going to go to the grave, because it was a special action request.

I've never received a letter from one of them at that time.

Okay.

I'm worried about that, because I'm concerned with so many people's lives.

Tony Rossi called me in today.

Yeah.

And he wanted to make sure that all of your clothes were in order for the inauguration, because they closed the week of Christmas.

And he thought if you could look before so he could, if there is anything you need, you know, that.

Oh, there aren't any.

You sure?

We're not going to use any.

No, but he just meant every day.

Not the right time.

They're the same.

But he figured they were all right, but you know, he is the nicest man.

He does so many nice things for us.

Yes, he is.

Better bring him to school.

Still alive, but you know, some days he's with us, some days not.

Yeah, I know that they say it's never-ending.

Now, the music boxes that you like, she thinks she can make them as low as $125.

It may go a little bit above that.

And we have... $5,000.

We have different combinations of songs, which I think you ought to look at songs or music, but I don't think you can see the tools there.

Let me just take a look at the floor.

She's going to have to ask us.

Yes, she's got it.

Well, it is hard to read, because we're going to have to turn it in.

Do you want some of those for Christmas or for inauguration, or just to get some on hand?

She thought she could get some for Christmas.

So they have to know what songs we want on there.

Well, at that price, I think we'll buy one of you.

But you would stop, maybe, I don't know if you meant for Christmas, but if not originally, you would stop at like Pat's Brothers.

You know, I'm very happy to be virtually covered with other of these things.

Yeah.

Well, it's just a gift, not actually a thing on their boat, the type of deal.

Well, very, very, very, very big contributors, like, well, basically, you've got about 10 contributors, 500,000 or more.

And they ought to really get something special.

I mean, other than this.

And I think, like, speaking of them, that's John O'Keefe and John Rawlings and Flintstone.

They've stayed.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

The Smiths.

I know the group.

Well, I know all of them.

Well, there's two people about 500, 500 and above.

So I was thinking that maybe I better, I've got to meet with John this morning, so I better, tell me this, if I got the list done, I'll work on it.

Send it back up today, tomorrow.

Sure, that's fine.

Oh yeah.

Or do you want it today?

No, no, tomorrow's fine.

You get the list to me and then let me, because I have this thing I kind of like to think about.

That's what I wanted to send it down.

And could she do...

Because if I may do some in one type and some in another, in other words, for the board, I guess I might want to have more classical stuff for American.

Oh, yes, you can have them in.

Any of these go in.

It's just those are the ones that came up with that style.

Well, they were cheap today to pick that out of the context.

Great, great number.

I'm sorry to be, you know, I might put some in there.

Well, I'll do that one thing.

There's a nice one that I'll put in there.

I'll just share it with John next time.

How are you?

You take that off.

I've been in here for months before.

Maybe you would.

I would rather have it.

We are part of this brother.

There's a decision that a bullet with a hat on.

Did you get ties while you were in New York?

Did you want to have a club for 10 grand from now?

I did.

They had another one in that box.

So let's leave it there.

I don't want them to come down now because they all see what they found.

And after Christmas, if I don't think I have things that I can use to do an article on that.

The only other thing, can I just take your call one day with Pedro Bell, Tom?

Yeah.

He'll be in New York for two weeks, and he did not want to go to the regular channel.

He wondered if it would be possible if he could have just seen a 12-minute video.

Now, Frank is only asking us if we can go back to Frank and say it's impossible, but he didn't know how to do that.

I'll say that I would be delighted to see Matt at the inauguration, but I cannot see him now.

He's a great guy, a great friend of ours.

I can see it then.

Okay, and I think Should I tell Frank, did Frank go along with it, did he tell Frank?

Oh, hell yes.

Yeah, I know him very well.

Able man, I'd love to see him, but I just can't right now.

That's why he's wanting to see me, you know, he's probably- Yeah, he doesn't want to see anybody.

I'll see you in a week, see.

It's gonna be announced tomorrow.

Okay, that's good.

All right.

Yeah, I'd like to have it over at the P.O.P.

That's a nice place.

Oh, and I have a beautiful gold that was small, but it's called Goldbrook.

Oh.

That's beautiful, thanks.

We've got the office up there fixed up nice.

She cursed, and on the fake gifts as well, there isn't any word to put it on that.

Fake gifts are the most magnificent thing that ever snowballed.

The vice presidential gifts make that D.O.V.

look great, Rose.

And those fake gifts, you've seen them, I'm sure.

Where did she go?

She went, she's going back.

Where did she go?

She's coming back.

She told me that you've suggested it, and she's glad.

Yes.

So as you see, I'm getting that up to putting on a hell of a lot of stuff.

We're not going to do that, but we put on a lot of parties.

And some people, you know, people can come roaring through there and see the decorations.

run it at night a little bit more and investigate as much.

I mean, I say we'll attend some, but that's unusual.

But I'd like the press, I'd like to do the press party, let them all do it themselves.

But we've got to do, say, the people in the staff.

I mean, I say, when the house is so great.

Yes.

Let me see.

We are, uh... As you know, we're having, like, Don's urgent work.

Evelyn, too, working on the inauguration.

Oh, God, I know.

Her daughter's working on it.

And now her daughter's... Evelyn has just, she'll just have everything.

Something that won't even be reasonable.

I know, for the van, she...

Did he?

Yeah.

And his shirt was all over.

Well, you shouldn't pay.

They can't afford to come back to you, okay?

But Roberta's daughter has purchased it.

Eddie is already ready for Roberta's daughter.

Is Eddie working on things?

Eddie is.

Is Roberta working on anything?

He's not going to come back here, but he has Ned tell him to take on Roberta's daughter and his secretary, and they're paid as well.

What is Ned working on?

God, he's great.

Quite an evil law.

And Eddie is going to work with him, but Eddie's not coming back here, and the two of them work together.

Well, I think Eddie is in charge of the Nixon family.

That's right.

But Eddie and Pat and Ed have talked.

And Eddie has... Oh, is Roberta working with them?

Well, because Ed asked her to.

Do you want it?

Ed asked her because Don embraced it.

Well, it's not Ed.

It's Roberta.

It's Ed's done it.

Ed has... Well, then maybe that's...

He's secretary from the campaign.

And Roberta Jones.

And then Ned Sullivan, who's going to work with them.

And then they come back and forth a couple times.

That's another part of it, yeah.

All those cousins, kids, and everybody, they're all assigned to cousins.

That's what I think.

And I think we should get a letter out and get the same thing out.

Some of the cousins on both sides are a little bit much.

Some of Pat's are too.

Oh, Christ.

That one was super huge off at the Irish Jake.

And of course, Pat also, well, you know, those cousins, those victims.

But none of them have ever done it.

Everybody's got bad answers.

We don't care.

They're big night, and I've got that ready for them.

But on the other hand, the family this time is going to get to the second place.

They had it before.

This time, by God, the word is going to get to the people who contributed to the people.

This is what I can tell them.

The family cannot all think they're going to be in everything.

No, no.

And even, you know, the basic heroes, we've got to take care of them.

Maury Sands has given me a lesson, you know, a long, long lesson.

And of course, Mark McGregor's given me a hell of a list.

And of course, John Connery's given me a very big list.

And he should.

And of course, and so's Peter Grant.

See, now I've got to take care of the new friends.

At least the family just can't come back and exist because many of them have really just hung on.

They haven't really done a lot.

Would you like to leave the country?

Well, you don't stay there all the time.

Does Louise's daughter have it now?

No, she had to resign it.

Who's done it?

I don't know.

I don't think it's been appointed, but I don't know.

Let me see.

Is he ever allowed to park on the way?

Yeah, he's fine.

He's passed second because he's fine on the way.

Then they checked out.

Yeah, you know, we went through that.

I guess everybody agreed that if Eddie next could be here, it's a nice hand holder and so forth, it would be great.

But we can't do it.

He can't even be a White House employee, can he?

Oh, listen.

I had John Deacon.

John Deacon's worked the law there in which way.

He can't be a White House employee.

He can't be an employee of the agency.

He can't be a damn thing.

That's the way it is.

See, here the issue is that, you know, people are right here in the airport.

I just think we might have to employ the foundation.

Why not?

Because he, apparently, was a hell of a hit.

He was a big man at the top of his campaign.

I heard that from so many people.

And, you know, he didn't get through to people.

Well, he's a very patient soul.

Like his mother.

Right.

He is.

He's very much like his mother.

And people immediately sense that he's such a decent man.

And you probably know he's had a lot of time with Melanie.

He called for me and I had some people with me.

And he said to me, he said to the operator, well, just tell her she'd better get on that phone or I won't be responsible.

So I said to the operator, you're just connecting with this early one dog.

And, you know, I had to be on it.

Did you hear him say that?

The operator told me that she kept coming back to me and probably said, he's so bad.

I think he's really starting out.

He's got such a high-fiving idea of himself.

They think, earlier when I was looking into it, they think there's a chemical problem.

There's something.

There's a chemical problem which makes him over-hyperactive.

If they get to 42, maybe they're getting related.

but they don't usually.

Did you mention it to them?

I said if you could get some of them, but I don't mind putting it into that store.

So you just buy them, because I can use two of them.

I can use two, see.

And that would be great.

And $10,000 contribution to that.

Okay.