Conversation: 823-006
Prev: 823-005 Next: 823-007Start Date: 14-Dec-1972 11:55 AM
End Date: 14-Dec-1972 12:30 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Sanchez, Manolo; Bull, Stephen B.; Eisenhower, Julie Nixon;Recording Device: Oval Office
NARA Description:
On December 14, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Manolo Sanchez, Stephen B. Bull, and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:55 am to 12:30 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 823-006 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 823-6
Date: December 14, 1972
Time: 11:55 am - 12:30 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman and Manolo Sanchez.
Paperwork
-Private file
-Executive Office Building [EOB]
-Gift Office
-Logging
-Rose Mary Woods
-Letter
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 12:01 pm.
1973 Inauguration
-Medal
- -Modernity
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
-Picture
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-08)
Conversation No. 823-6 (cont’d)
The President’s schedule
-Meeting with John C. Stennis
-Forthcoming meetings
-Senators
-Carl B. Albert
-Stennis
-James R. Schlesinger
-Relationship
-Possible meeting
Second term reorganization
-Richard M. Helms
-Ambassadorship to Iran
-Helms’s conversation with Haldeman
-The President’s conversation with Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
and Henry A. Kissinger
-Persian Gulf
-Oil
-Kissinger’s conversation with Helms
-Helms’s value
-Helms’s possible conversation with Jackson
-The President’s conversation with Jackson
The President’s schedule
-Meeting with Stennis
-Schlesinger’s view
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:55 am.
The President’s schedule
-Meeting with Hugh Scott
-Delay
-Briefing
-Residence
-Reception for 1972 election supporters
-Timing
-John D. Ehrlichman
Bull left at an unknown time before 12:01 pm.
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-08)
Conversation No. 823-6 (cont’d)
Second term reorganization
-Stennis
-Meeting with Schlesinger
-Central Intelligence Agency [CIA]
-Schlesinger
-Helms
-Conversation with Haldeman
-Stennis
-Outside
-Compared to promotion from within
-Reaction
-Changes
-Promotion from within
-Stennis
Haldeman’s schedule
The President talked with Julie Nixon Eisenhower between 12:01 pm and 12:04 pm.
[Conversation No. 823-6A]
[See Conversation No. 34-72]
[End of telephone conversation]
Second term reorganization
-[Julie Nixon Eisenhower]
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-Efforts
-Conversation with the President
-Constance M. (Cornell) (“Connie”) Stuart
-Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
-Haldeman’s role
-Conversation with Haldeman
-Staff cuts
-Mrs. Nixon
-Marjorie P. Acker
-Press relations
-The President’s conversation with Ziegler
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-08)
Conversation No. 823-6 (cont’d)
-Relationship with the President’s family
-Personality
-Children
-Ziegler’s role
-Conversation and meeting with Ziegler
-Helen Smith
-Mrs. Nixon’s staff
-Retention
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Stuart
-Haldeman’s role
-Marital role
-Conversation with Haldeman
-Timing
-Mrs. Nixon
-Schedule
-Family
-1972 election
-Staff
Lucy A. Winchester
-Smith
The President’s schedule
-December 20, 1972
-Mrs. Nixon
Bull entered at an unknown time after 12:04 pm.
The President’s schedule
-Telephone call to Frank L. Rizzo
-Timing
-1972 election
-White House operators
Bull left at an unknown time before 12:32 pm.
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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-08)
Conversation No. 823-6 (cont’d)
-Physical examination
-Extent
-Compared to Mayo Clinic
-Dr. W. Kenneth Riland
-Appointment
-Christmas cards
-Mrs. Nixon
-Volunteers
[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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Congressional relations
-The President’s schedule
-Meeting with Scott
-Meeting with Congressmen, governors
-William E. Timmons
-Meeting with Haldeman and Ehrlichman
-View
-Frequency of meetings
-Birthdays
-Cards
-Telephone calls
-Jackson
-Stennis
-Harry F. Byrd, Jr.
-Clark MacGregor
-1972 campaign
Bull entered at an unknown time after 12:04 pm.
The President’s schedule
-Telephone c all to Rizzo
-Timing and duration
-Record
Bull left at an unknown time before 12:30 pm.
Congressional relations
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-08)
Conversation No. 823-6 (cont’d)
-Politics
-MacGregor
-Robert J. Dole
-Work with Peter H. Dominick
-White House staff
-Timmons
-Harry S. Dent
-Charles W. Colson
-Press relations
-MacGregor
-Record
Second term reorganization
-Dr. Edward E. David, Jr.
-Women
-National Aeronautics and Space Administration [NASA]
-James C. Fletcher
-Atomic Energy Commission [?]
-Claude S. Brinegar
-NASA
-Oil business
-Armstrong
-Secretary of Transportation
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Politics
-The President’s efforts
-The President’s conversation with Dr. W. Kenneth Riland
-Armstrong
-White House staff
-Possible title
-Assistant to the President
-Special Assistant to the President
-Charles B. (“Bud”) Wilkinson
-Robert H. Finch
-Possible duties
-Dent
-Republican National Committeemen, governors
-Meetings
-Bicentennial
-Agnew
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-08)
Conversation No. 823-6 (cont’d)
-Prisoners of war [POWs]
-Future
-Ambassadors
-Ages
-Study
-List
-Peter M. Flanigan
-Maurice H. Stans
-William P. Rogers
-Timing
-Size
-Kissinger
-U. Alexis Johnson
-Chief of US delegation to Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
-Arms Control and Disarmament Agency [ACDA]
-Under Secretary of Labor
-[Gertrude C. Michelson]
-Peter J. Brennan
-Macy’s
-Labor relations
-New York
-Jewish background
-Colson’s view
-Management
-Ambassadors
-Ages
-Helms
-Departures
-John D. Lodge
-Shelby C. Davis
-Retention
-Flanigan
-Retention
-Finch, Donald H. Rumsfeld
-Departure
-Confirmation
-White House
-George P. Shultz
-European Economic Community [EEC]
-EEC
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-08)
Conversation No. 823-6 (cont’d)
-William D. Eberle
-Under Secretaryship
-James D. Hodgson
-Politics
-MacGregor, Bryce N. Harlow, Armstrong, [George H. W. Bush], “inside
group”
-Haldeman’s, Ehrlichman’s role
-Leonard Garment
-Dent’s office
-White House interest
-Flanigan
-Possible meeting with the President
-Ambassadors list
-Stans
The President’s schedule
-Meeting with Stans
-Delay
-Stans’s conversation with the President
-Ambassadors list
-Stans’s telephone calls to Haldeman
-Stans’s future
-Timing
-Christmas parties
-Diplomatic credentials presentation
-Timing
-Meeting with doctors
-Stans
Stans
-The President’s conversation with Helene (Colesie) Drawn
-Jack Drown
-1962, 1968, 1972 campaigns
Bull entered at an unknown time after 12:04 pm.
The President’s schedule
-Meeting with Scott
Bull left at an unknown time before 12:30 pm.
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-08)
Conversation No. 823-6 (cont’d)
Stans
-Relationship with the President
-Helene and Jack Drown
-1972 election
-statement
-Robert J. Dole
Second term reorganization
-John Sherman Cooper
-Possible meeting with the President
-Appointment
-The President’s meeting with Jackson
-Meeting with the President in Kentucky
-Ambassadorship to Egypt
-Article
-Cooper’s age
-The President’s meeting with Jackson
-Congressional relations
-“Doves”
-“Loyalty”
-Appointment
-[Pope Paul VI] Giovanni Battista Motini
-John A. Volpe
-Arms control
-Congressional relations
-Votes
White House social affairs
-Reception for 1972 election supporters
-Introductions
-White House staff
-Compared to military aide
-Military aide
-Ambassadors
-Church services
-Example
-Jacksonville
-State dinners
-Reception for 1972 election supporters
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-08)
Conversation No. 823-6 (cont’d)
-MacGregor
-Compared to Stans
-Reception for administration officials from California
-Blair House
-White House
-Finch’s action
-The President’s conversation with Helene Drown
-Hosts
Finch
Second term organization
-Rumsefeld
-Article
-Ambassadorship to North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]
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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
Fundraising
-The President’s efforts
-Rumsfeld
-Chicago
-Dole
-Kansas
-Finch
-California
[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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Second term reorganization
-Rumsfeld
-Ambassadorship to NATO
-Article
-Value
-Politics
-Ambassadors list
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-08)
Conversation No. 823-6 (cont’d)
-The President’s schedule
-Flanigan
-Under Secretaries
-Under Secretary of Labor
-Michelson
-Colson
-Brennan
-Brinegar
Haldeman left at 12:30 pm.