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Start Date: 2-May-1973 12:11 PM

End Date: 2-May-1973 12:30 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Rogers, William P.White House operatorCole, Kenneth R., Jr.

Recording Device: Oval Office

909-026.mp3

NARA Description:

On May 2, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, William P. Rogers, White House operator, and Kenneth R. Cole, Jr. met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:11 pm to 12:30 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 909-026 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 909-26

Date: May 2, 1973
Time: 12:11 pm - 12:30 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with William P. Rogers.

       Meeting with Willy Brandt

       Watergate

The President talked with the White House operator at 12:11 pm.

[Conversation No. 909-26A]

[Begin telephone conversation]

[See Conversation No. 45-139]

[End telephone conversation]

       President’s statement      

              -Economic Stabilization Program


       Watergate       

             -Special Prosecutor        

                    -Elliot L. Richardson        

                    -Senate resolution, May 1         

                            -Senators’ understanding
                            -Significance
                            -Implications of “no confidence” vote
                    -Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]

The President talked with Kenneth R. Cole, Jr. between 12:11 and 12:12 pm.

[Conversation No. 909-26B]
                                               -44-


                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                       Tape Subject Log 

                                      (rev. October-2012)

                                                             Conversation No. 909-26 (cont’d)


[Begin telephone conversation]

[See Conversation No. 45-140]

[End telephone conversation]

       Watergate
             -Senate resolution, May 1
                    -Barry M. Goldwater and James L. Buckley
                            -Possible statements
                    -Charles H. Percy’s role
             -Percy
                    -Possible statement on Elliot L. Richardson
                    -Motives

       John B. Connally 

              -Political affiliation      

              -Possible role in administration 

                      -Defense Secretary

       David Packard        

              -Forthcoming meeting with President 

                     -Possible role as Defense Secretary 


       Counsel to the President 

             -President’s conversation with Cole 

             -Role         

                      -John W. Dean, III        

             -Possible candidates         

             -Qualifications         

                      -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman and John D. Ehrlichman
                      -Rogers’s opinion
                              -Cabinet
                              -Congressional relations
             -Possible candidates         

                      -George H. W. Bush           

                                       -45-

            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                Tape Subject Log
                               (rev. October-2012)

                                                     Conversation No. 909-26 (cont’d)

                      -Commitments
                              -Republican National Committee [RNC] chairman
                      -Strengths       

               -Bush, Bryce N. Harlow         

                      -Strengths       

               -Bush        

                      -Possible role      


White House staff organization
      -Chief of Staff
             -President’s preference

Spiro T. Agnew
       -Conversation with Rogers, May 1
       -Meeting with President, May 1
                -Watergate
                       -Public statements        

       -Intelligence, dignity          

       -Possible foreign travel          

       -Domestic Council           

                -Attendance          

                -Role       


Quadriad meeting
      -Agnew’s attendance
      -Phase III of Economic Stabilization Act
             -Announcement           

             -Pre-reporting requirements        

                     -Large corporations       


Counsel to the President
      -Possible candidates         

               -Bush and Harlow          

               -Donald H. Rumsfeld          

                      -Suitability
                      -Senate candidacy
                      -Interpersonal relations
                                    -46-

           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                             Tape Subject Log
                            (rev. October-2012)

                                                   Conversation No. 909-26 (cont’d)

             -Bush         

             -Harlow         

             -Bush         

             -Qualifications        

                    -Precision
                             -Authoritarianism
             -Bush
                    -Republican National Committee [RNC] commitments

Haldeman and Ehrlichman
      -Compared with Sherman Adams
      -Relations with Republicans, Democrats

Counsel to the President
      -Possible candidates          

               -Bush         

               -James T. Lynn         

                      -Qualifications
               -Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger
                      -Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW] Secretary
                               -Workload
               -Lynn
                      -Housing and Urban Development [HUD] Secretary
                      -Previous experience in Washington, DC
                               -Maurice H. Stans
                               -Commerce Department
                               -Congressional relations
                      -Age        

                      -Strength         

               -Bush         

                      -Capability         

                      -Compared to Prescott S. Bush       

                      -Integrity        

                      -Intelligence         

                      -Decency          

      -Need for legal background 

      -Possible candidates          

                                      -47-

            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                               Tape Subject Log
                              (rev. October-2012)

                                                      Conversation No. 909-26 (cont’d)

              -George McKinnon           

                    -Health        

                    -Current judgeship         

                    -Integrity         

                    -Pension         

                    -Age        

                            -Retirement
                            -Pension

Watergate
      -Special Prosecutor         

             -Richardson          

             -Edmund G. (“Pat”) Brown             

                     -Rogers’s viewpoint           

                     -Previous experience            

                     -Temperament          

             -Possible Democrat
             -Barnabas F. Sears
                     -Qualifications
                     -Rogers’s conversation with Richard G. Kleindienst
             -Qualifications         

                     -John N. Mitchell         

             -Difficulties of forthcoming prosecutions          

                     -Burden on prosecutor
                             -Jury
                             -Possible motion for change of venue
                                     -Mitchell, other possible defendants
                                     -Washington, DC

Counsel to the President
      -Possible candidates
               -John W. Byrnes        

                      -Finances        

                      -Family       

                      -Intelligence        

                      -Experience        

                      -Possible dynamic with President        

                                               -48-


                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                       Tape Subject Log 

                                      (rev. October-2012)

                                                                 Conversation No. 909-26 (cont’d)

                              -Meeting with Rogers
                                     -Interest
                      -Bush
                      -Lynn
                              -Rogers’s check
                              -Age
                              -Strengths
                                     -Experience
                                     -Precision
                              -Working style
                                     -Relations with colleagues, Cabinet
                      -Bush
                             -Working style
                             -Ambition
                             -Loyalty
                      -Byrnes
                             -Telephone call with Rogers
                                    -Interest

       Rogers’s schedule      

             -Brandt’s Head of State visit, German officials 

             -Opera       


       President’s Schedule
              -Haile Selassie
                      -Head of State visit
                              -Dinner
                                     -Toast
                                              -Possible message to Dr. Minassie Haile
              -Florida
                     -Timing

Rogers left at 12:30 pm.
                                             -49-


                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                       Tape Subject Log 

                                      (rev. October-2012)

                                                              Conversation No. 909-27 (cont’d)