Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 5 › Conversation 005-099

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on Lucy Winchester

Wednesday, June 16, 1971 · 7:57 PM ET · White House Telephone · 16 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Conversation005-099 on Tape 5 (tape position 03:00:14–03:00:34)StartWednesday, June 16, 1971 at 7:57 PMEndWednesday, June 16, 1971 at 7:57 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 005-099 ↗

President Nixon and First Lady Pat Nixon discussed an attempt to reach Lucy Winchester, the White House Social Secretary, to provide her with specific instructions. The President confirmed that initial efforts to contact her at home were unsuccessful and that he had directed staff to track her down. The brief exchange focused on coordinating this communication and ensuring the First Lady would be updated once contact was established.

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Hi, Dick.
Yeah.
Are you going to call Lucy, and then will you let me know?
Well, the thing is that they couldn't reach her at her home, and I told her to try to track her down.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
Bye.

On June 16, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon talked on the telephone at 7:57 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 005-099 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 5-99

Date: June 16, 1971
Time: 7:57 pm - 7:58 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.

     President's call to Lucy A. Winchester
  • 005-094 5:10 PM · 23 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods talked on the telephone from 5:10 pm to 5:11 pm.
  • 523-006 5:16 PM · 46 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, unknown person(s), Ronald L. Ziegler, Henry A. Kissinger, Lawrence M. Higby, and Rose Mary Woods met in the Oval Office of the White House from 5:16 pm to 6:05 pm.
  • 523-007 6:05 PM · 2 min — Unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House on an unknown date, sometime between 6:05 pm on June 16, 1971 and 7:55 am on June 17, 1971.
  • 005-095 7:46 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 7:46 pm.
  • 005-096 7:47 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 7:47 pm.
  • 005-097 7:48 PM · 8 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 7:48 pm to 7:56 pm.
  • 005-098 7:56 PM · 23 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 7:56 pm.
  • 005-100 7:58 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone from 7:58 pm to 8:22 pm.

Conversation 005-099, June 16, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/005-099 (accessed October 5, 2026).