Nixon White House Tapes ›Tape 5 › Conversation 005-140

Nixon phone call with DuPont on Vietnam War and Congress

Wednesday, June 23, 1971 · 2:45 PM–2:46 PM ET · White House Telephone ·1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  DuPont, Pierre S.Conversation005-140 onTape 5 (tape position 04:21:37–04:22:40)StartWednesday, June 23, 1971 at 2:45 PMEndWednesday, June 23, 1971 at 2:46 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 005-140 ↗

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President Nixon called Congressman Pierre S. DuPont to express his appreciation for DuPont’s effective public support of a resolution during recent Vietnam-related hearings. DuPont acknowledged the difficulty of taking such a stance and hinted at ongoing, undisclosed administration efforts regarding the conflict. The brief exchange served to solidify political alignment and boost morale for the Congressman amidst intense congressional debate.

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Yeah.
I have Congressman DuPont.
Yeah.
Hello.
Yes, sir.
I just wanted to tell you that in talking with some of our people in the leadership up there who attended the caucus a couple, a few days ago, that they spoke of how very effectively you spoke and
on that uh resolution that came up and i just wanted to express my appreciation well mr president it's hard to step up to these these tough ones like that and i i appreciate it and i i think in the end you're going to look pretty good because you know we're going to we're doing some things that people don't know about that will i think be very effective in this field
Well, I certainly appreciate it.
It is hard to step up sometimes.
Sure, sure.
Now in the middle of the Vietnam hearings, hearing testimony on all these resolutions, so we've got plenty of work coming.
You're having a lot of fun, aren't you?
Oh, yeah.
It didn't turn out to be dull.
You've got a good committee.
No, it turned out very nicely.
All right.
Well, anyway, I appreciate it very much, Pete.
Mr. President, I appreciate the call.
Thank you.

NARA Description

On June 23, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Pierre S. DuPont talked on the telephone from 2:45 pm to 2:46 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 005-140 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 5-140

Date: June 23, 1971
Time: 2:45 pm - 2:46 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Pierre S. DuPont.

[See Conversation No. 258-40]

     DuPont's favorable speech on behalf of resolution
         -Vietnam hearings

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 005-140, June 23, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/005-140 (accessed September 18, 2026).