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Conversation 009-044

TapeTape 9StartThursday, September 16, 1971 at 2:10 PMEndThursday, September 16, 1971 at 6:21 PMTape start time01:30:31Tape end time01:32:38ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Recording deviceWhite House Telephone
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On September 16, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:10 pm and 6:21 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 009-044 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 9-44

Date: September 16, 1971
Time: Unknown between 2:10 pm and 6:21 pm
Location: White House Telephone

H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman talked with the President.

     Draft issue
           -Gordon L. Allott
                 -Richard S. Schweiker
           -F. Edward Hébert and Leslie C. Arends, Margaret Chase Smith and John C. Stennis
                 -George P. Shultz
                      -Military Procurement Act
           -Schweiker
                 -Vote for tabling
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Yeah.
Mr. Haldeman, asking for you?
Yeah.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Well, just before three, Al had agreed to support the president and to have his troops move over to oppose the tabling amendment.
Then they tried to get Schweiker or somebody to move the tabling amendment this afternoon, knowing that we had the votes to defeat it.
And they couldn't get it moved.
So it will now come up at 11 tomorrow morning.
And then Alep will be gone, though.
Alep will be gone, but his troops will vote with us.
Other people will be gone, too, and they're starting now on a whole new head count on the basis of the absentees tomorrow as to what they have.
But Alep forced his price.
Well, in any event, we'll have to know.
Now, Schultz is to follow up with this directly with Hebert, okay?
just have him just talk to a baron aarons okay and margaret smith and senes with regard to that military procurement thing you understand that's the way it should be done at this point so that allot doesn't force me to have to i don't want to use up my chip with a bear unless this is lost right then i have to go to him see okay so schultz can follow up well that's good i'm glad to hear this
at least today.
But as of now, at least today, there will be nothing and you'll be asked that we couldn't get that goddamn Schweiker to play.
I mean, they won't even, even when they're against us, they won't help us, will they?
I guess not.
They don't want to be on record as making the motion, I guess.
Yeah.
It's a weird group.
Well, no, no, they didn't.
What Schweiker was doing was that he's going to vote.
It isn't Bob.
He doesn't give a shit about making the motion.
What he didn't want to do was to make the motion when he knew it would lose.
He's going to vote against it, so he'll be on record in any event.
So he's going to vote to table.
That's what I mean.
Some Republican who's for tabling would have moved it.
But they haven't got any loyalty at all.
Okay.
Thanks, Bob.
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