Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 15 › Conversation 015-137

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on Ronald L. Ziegler

Wednesday, November 24, 1971 · 11:46 AM ET · White House Telephone · 8 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); White House operatorConversation015-137 on Tape 15 (tape position 04:05:27–04:05:35)StartWednesday, November 24, 1971 at 11:46 AMEndWednesday, November 24, 1971 at 11:46 AMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 015-137 ↗

President Nixon and the White House operator discuss the current location of Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler. Upon learning that Ziegler is occupied with a press briefing, the President decides not to interrupt him. Consequently, the call concludes with the operator agreeing to reach out to Ziegler at a later time.

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Yeah?
Mr. President, I found Mr. Ziegler's in a briefing.
May I leave word, or shall I get him out?
No, no, no, let him go.
Fine, I'll call him later.
Thank you, sir.

On November 24, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 11:46 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 015-137 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 15-137

Date: November 24, 1971
Time: 11:46 am
Location: White House Telephone

The White House operator talked with the President.

[See also Conversation No. 624-20A]

     Ronald L. Ziegler
          -Location
  • 015-135 11:43 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and Tricia Nixon Cox talked on the telephone from 11:43 am to 11:44 am.
  • 624-015 11:43 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Tricia Nixon Cox met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:43 am to 11:44 am.
  • 015-136 11:44 AM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:44 am and 11:46 am.
  • 624-016 11:44 AM · 36 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:44 am and 11:46 am.
  • 624-017 11:44 AM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:44 am and 11:46 am.
  • 624-018 11:44 AM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:44 am and 11:46 am.
  • 624-019 11:44 AM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:44 am and 11:46 am.
  • 624-020 11:46 AM · 38 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John B. Connally, Arthur F. Burns, White House photographer, White House operator, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:46 am to 12:27 pm.

Conversation 015-137, November 24, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/015-137 (accessed October 9, 2026).