Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 16 › Conversation 016-033

Kissinger phone call on National Security Council and Harold H. Saunders

Monday, December 6, 1971 · 11:12 PM–11:28 PM ET · White House Telephone · 9 sec

ParticipantsKissinger, Henry A.; White House operatorConversation016-033 on Tape 16 (tape position 01:06:23–01:06:33)StartMonday, December 6, 1971 at 11:12 PMEndMonday, December 6, 1971 at 11:28 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 016-033 ↗

Henry A. Kissinger contacted the White House operator to request an immediate phone connection with Harold H. Saunders, a member of his National Security Council staff. This interaction served solely as a logistical request to facilitate a direct conversation between Kissinger and Saunders. No further policy discussions or substantive developments occurred during this brief exchange.

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Get me Mr. Saunders of my staff, this is Mr. Kissinger.
Thank you, sir.

On December 6, 1971, Henry A. Kissinger and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:12 pm and 11:28 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 016-033 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 16-33

Date: December 6, 1971
Time: Unknown between 11:12 pm and 11:28 pm
Location: White House Telephone

Henry A. Kissinger talked with the White House operator.

     Request for a call to Harold H. Saunders
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  • 016-032 11:11 PM · 43 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:11 pm and 11:12 pm.
  • 016-034 11:12 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:12 pm and 11:28 pm.
  • 016-134 11:28 PM · 4 sec — Unknown person(s) and the White House operator talked on the telephone on an unknown date, sometime between 11:28 pm on December 6, 1971 and 8:06 am on December 7, 1971.
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Conversation 016-033, December 7, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/016-033 (accessed October 10, 2026).