Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 17 › Conversation 017-078

Nixon phone call with Lauer on Christmas and Condolences

Saturday, December 25, 1971 · 11:02 AM–11:05 AM ET · White House Telephone · 3 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Lauer, Michael; Lauer, Ann Marie; Lauer, Kathy; Lauer, KevinConversation017-078 on Tape 17 (tape position 03:03:29–03:06:55)StartSaturday, December 25, 1971 at 11:02 AMEndSaturday, December 25, 1971 at 11:05 AMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 017-078 ↗ · National Archives Catalog, NAID 417191919 ↗

President Nixon initiated this Christmas Day telephone call to Michael Lauer and his family to respond to a heartfelt letter Michael had sent regarding a recent family tragedy involving his brother. The President offered condolences and words of encouragement to Michael, his mother, and his siblings, urging them to remain hopeful and supportive of one another despite their loss. Nixon explicitly encouraged the children to maintain their optimism and tasked the eldest brother, Kevin, with keeping the family's spirits high.

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On December 25, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Michael Lauer, Ann Marie Lauer, Kathy Lauer, and Kevin Lauer talked on the telephone from 11:02 am to 11:05 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 017-078 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 17-78

Date: December 25, 1971
Time: 11:02 am - 11:05 am
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Michael Lauer.

     Lauer's letter to the President
          -The President's answer

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     A cousin of the President
          -Son
                -LSD

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     President offering encouragement

     Lauer's family
          -Brothers and sisters
                -Number
          -Mother

Mrs. Lauer joined the conversation.

     Mrs. Lauer's family

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     A cousin of the President
          -Son
                -LSD

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     Encouragement to the Lauer family

Ann Marie Lauer Joined the conversation.

     Age

Kathy Lauer joined the conversation.

     Age

     College

Kevin Lauer joined the conversation.

     Age

     Mother

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I have Michael Lauer for you.
On the 9th.
Hello?
Hello?
Is this Michael?
Yeah.
Well, I wanted to call you to tell you that I have answered your letter.
You'll probably get it in a couple days, but I want you to know that on this Christmas Day that Mrs. Nixon and I are thinking about you, and we know you've been through a very great tragedy, but you just remember that...
that these things happen with lots of people.
Your brother's all right.
You can be sure of that.
He's all right.
And you just remember you're just 18 years of age and you've got a good life ahead.
You just keep your idealism and keep up your hopes.
Will you do that now?
Sure, thanks a lot.
And you just give my best to your family.
How many other brothers and sisters do you have?
One brother and two sisters.
One brother.
Are they there with your family?
Yeah, they're out here.
On Christmas Day?
Yeah.
And your mother there, too?
Sure.
I'll say hello to your mom.
Well, Miss Lauer, your son wrote a beautiful letter to me, and I just told him that I know exactly how he felt.
These things happen, and you can be sure we'll do our best to try to deal with these things in the future.
And you have these wonderful family left, and you just keep your chin up now.
And remember, the future's going to be all right.
Why?
Well, I know what a tragedy it is, but you just keep your faith, and you're going to be all right.
Sure you are.
To whom?
Sure.
What are their names?
And Mary.
And how old are you, hon?
Fifteen.
Well, that's a wonderful age, and you just, you just, you're going to have a great life now, and these tragedies happen in every family, and your brother, he's in a good place, you can be sure.
Are you in, how old are you?
I'm 21.
You're the oldest one?
No, Kevin's 21.
Kevin's 21, and you're graduating from?
Edward Howard.
Oh, well, well, anyway, we just wish you the very best, and we know this is sort of a sad time in a way, but you make it a happy one for the family.
Will you do that now?
Fine.
Kevin, you're the number one, huh?
Yeah.
Well, we just wish you the best, and I know that you've
at a sad time because of the events, but you just remember the life is ahead of you, and it's going to be a good life.
And you just, it's your job to keep your mother and the rest of the family, you just keep their spirits up.
You do that now?
You bet you will.
All right.
Merry Christmas.
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Conversation 017-078, December 25, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives (NAID 417191919). Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/017-078 (accessed November 2, 2026).