Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 25 › Conversation 025-079

Nixon phone call with Scott on Health and Vietnam

Tuesday, June 20, 1972 · 1:30 PM–1:35 PM ET · White House Telephone · 7 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Scott, HughConversation025-079 on Tape 25 (tape position 03:16:12–03:23:39)StartTuesday, June 20, 1972 at 1:30 PMEndTuesday, June 20, 1972 at 1:35 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 025-079 ↗ · National Archives Catalog, NAID 417193781 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and Senate Republican Leader Hugh Scott engage in a brief, informal check-in regarding Scott's recent health progress. The conversation touches upon the current political climate, including legislative strategies concerning Vietnam and broader foreign policy considerations. The two men also briefly discuss the strategic implications of ongoing arms negotiations and public perception of administration initiatives.

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NARA Description

On June 20, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Hugh Scott talked on the telephone from 1:30 pm to 1:35 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 025-079 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 25-79

Date: June 20, 1972
Time: 1:30-1:35 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Hugh Scott.

[See Conversation No. 342-23]

     Scott's health
           -President's telephone call
           -Progress

     Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty [SALT]
           -Henry A. Kissinger
                -Hawaii
                -Defense policy
                     -Statements
                           -Nuclear Weapons
                -Massive retaliation
                     -John Foster Dulles
                -The President’s view
                     -Foreign policy
                           -Soviet Union

     Margaret Chase Smith
         -President's call

     Vietnam
          -Thinking of North Vietnamese
          -A bill in Congress

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I didn't call you while you were at my place because my spouse wanted to get in on it.

But I was delighted to hear that it was getting out this morning.

It's got a lot of headroom.

I got the flow of the blood in the brain here in about a fifth of a second.

Well, I just hope it doesn't scare you.

One year, wait a year, it's not.

It's great.

Wow, I hope I'm not... Oh!

Yeah, that would be... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know what?

I believe I caught that one.

And, uh, he was, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

and the only thing we had is this loop, the solar tunnel, with the jump, uh, that went off, which just means that all of the discussions we had with Luke, uh, he had no credit with the solar tunnel, or whatever, and both of the discussions we had with Luke, uh, you know, uh, that's a, that's a real illusion, you know, uh, you know, uh, you know, uh, yeah, uh,

I'll just call it a few minutes.

Well, the one thing, too, is that they're not that bad.

Certainly, they have got the patience to do that, though.

As far as they are concerned, they do not want to jeopardize whatever might be going on in the country.

I don't know if you've heard that.

I don't know.

Well, they're almost there.

They're almost there.

or otherwise, or otherwise,

I'm afraid of it.

I'm afraid of it too.

I'm afraid of it.

right at this point

I didn't, I didn't, I didn't get a good time for it.

So after, I didn't get a good time for it.

There you go.

Also recorded on June 20, 1972

025-077 12:55 PM · 5 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:55 pm and 1:30 pm.
025-078 12:55 PM · 21 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:55 pm and 1:30 pm.
342-023 1:30 PM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Hugh Scott met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:30 pm to 1:35 pm.
342-024 1:35 PM · 28 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., Joseph Trerotola, White House operator, unknown person(s), and Clark MacGregor met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:35 pm and 2:10 pm.
025-080 1:38 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Joseph Trerotola talked on the telephone from 1:38 pm to 1:39 pm.
025-081 1:39 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:39 pm and 1:45 pm.
025-082 1:39 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:39 pm and 1:45 pm.
025-083 1:45 PM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Clark MacGregor talked on the telephone from 1:45 pm to 1:49 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 025-079, June 20, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives (NAID 417193781). Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/025-079 (accessed November 1, 2026).