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Conversation 033-090

TapeTape 33StartSaturday, November 18, 1972 at 12:12 PMEndSaturday, November 18, 1972 at 12:13 PMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Ehrlichman, John D.Recording deviceWhite House Telephone
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On November 18, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman talked on the telephone from 12:12 pm to 12:13 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 033-090 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 33-90

Date: November 18, 1972
Time: 12:12 pm - 12:13 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with John D. Ehrlichman.

       Second term reorganization
            -Peter G. Peterson
                  -Ehrlichman’s forthcoming meeting with George P. Shultz
                  -President's judgment
                  -Commerce Department
                        -Meetings with the President
                  -Ehrlichman forthcoming meeting with Shultz
                  -Commerce Department
                        -Contributions
                               -East-West relations
                               -Trade
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I have Mr. Ehrlichman now for you, Mr. President.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Bye-bye, sir.
Thank you.
Hello.
John.
Yes, sir.
I've been thinking some more about the Peterson thing.
I haven't, you haven't heard from Schultz today, have you?
No, I'm going to see him at 1 o'clock.
Yeah.
On reflection, you know, considering the ability that fell on the rest.
Maybe we're, maybe I'm being a little too hard, and that's respect.
I mean, you know, hard.
I mean, ability and imagination is hard to come by.
And the guy does have a hell of a contribution to make.
Do you think we should let Schultz have as a backup position the—all right, commerce if he'll take it under the circumstances that we've suggested?
It's entirely up to you.
It's a question of what you'd be comfortable with, I think.
Well, if I don't have to see them.
I understand.
That's the point, you see.
That had occurred to me with the reorganization.
That's true.
That's true.
Well, let me do this.
George and I are going to get together at 1, and let me visit with him about it.
He's undoubtedly talked to him some more, and we'll have a better feel of what the market is, so to speak.
Because even if he is going to be out there, he isn't in a place in commerce that he could do any harm particularly.
He can contribute in this whole east-west thing and the rest and very generally in ways that many others simply wouldn't have any understanding.
Okay.
Well, let me indicate to George that that's a possibility.
Possibility that he can have that as a bargaining point.
Right-o.
Fine.
Good.
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