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Conversation 038-053

TapeTape 38StartSunday, April 15, 1973 at 8:18 PMEndSunday, April 15, 1973 at 8:25 PMParticipantsWhite House operator;  Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob");  Higby, Lawrence M.Recording deviceWhite House Telephone
AudioNARA Description

On April 15, 1973, White House operator, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Lawrence M. Higby talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 8:18 pm and 8:25 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-053 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 38-53

Date: April 15, 1973
Time: Unknown between 8:18 pm and 8:25 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The White House operator talked with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

     Telephone call from Lawrence M. Higby

Higby talked with Haldeman at an unknown time.

[A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared Richard Nixon’s Special
White House Counsel for Watergate Matters and submitted to the Committee on the Judiciary of
the House of Representatives. This transcript can be found in Submission of Recorded
Presidential Conversations (SRPC), pages 761-762 (1-2). Please refer to the logging below.]

     Watergate
          -John W. Dean, III’s message for President
                -Dean’s motivation
                -John D. Ehrlichman’s request for meeting
                -Desire to meet with President
                -Henry E. Petersen’s role
          -Dean’s location
Transcript (AI-Generated)

This transcript was generated automatically by AI and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite this transcript as authoritative. Consult the Finding Aid above for verified information.

Hello, Bob.
John Dean just called me.
He had a message he wanted to relay to the president through you.
He would not speak directly to you.
All right.
2.1.
I hope you understand that my actions are motivated totally out of loyalty to you and the president.
You.
You.
If not, then if...
and the president.
And if not clear now, it will become clear.
Erlichman requested to meet tonight, but I feel it's inappropriate at this time.
I'm ready and willing to meet with you, meaning the president, at any time to discuss these matters.
Full point.
And you, meaning the president, should take your counsel
From Henry Peterson, who I assure you does not want the presidency hurt.
That's the end of his message.
He's calling me from his home, the operator said.
That's what the, that's what the on-line said.
What was that, just now?
Yes, sir.
Okay, thank you very much.
Sure.
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