Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 39 › Conversation 039-031

Nixon phone call with Hart on Ronald Ziegler and Staff Coordination

Tuesday, May 29, 1973 · 1:47 PM–1:48 PM ET · White House Telephone · 20 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Hart, ThomasConversation039-031 on Tape 39StartTuesday, May 29, 1973 at 1:47 PMEndTuesday, May 29, 1973 at 1:48 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 039-031 ↗

President Nixon coordinated with Thomas Hart to arrange a follow-up briefing once Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler concluded an ongoing meeting. Hart informed the President that Ziegler was working to finalize pending matters, prompting Nixon to request a direct call as soon as Ziegler became available. The brief exchange served to manage the President's schedule and ensure immediate communication with his press secretary.

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When Ziegler finishes, just have him give me a ring.
You don't know when he's going to finish.
No, he's still in there, and they expect shortly, but yet, you know, he's trying to clear up these last-minute things.
Okay.

On May 29, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Thomas Hart talked on the telephone from 1:47 pm to 1:48 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 039-031 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 39-31

Date: May 29, 1973
Time: 1:47 pm - 1:48 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Thomas Hart.

[See also Conversation No. 440-62]

       Ronald L. Ziegler’s schedule
             -Meeting
  • 440-059 1:45 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:45 pm to 1:46 pm.
  • 039-029 1:46 PM · 46 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone from 1:46 pm to 1:47 pm.
  • 440-060 1:46 PM · 45 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:46 pm to 1:47 pm.
  • 039-030 1:47 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at 1:47 pm.
  • 440-061 1:47 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 1:47 pm.
  • 440-062 1:47 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Thomas Hart met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:47 pm to 1:48 pm.
  • 039-032 1:48 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:48 pm and 1:52 pm.
  • 440-063 1:48 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:48 pm and 1:52 pm.

Conversation 039-031, May 29, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/039-031 (accessed October 10, 2026).