Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 42 › Conversation 042-095

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on National Association of…

Wednesday, May 5, 1971 · 1:16 PM–3:00 PM ET · White House Telephone · 14 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); White House operatorConversation042-095 on Tape 42 (tape position 02:27:11–02:27:25)StartWednesday, May 5, 1971 at 1:16 PMEndWednesday, May 5, 1971 at 3:00 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 042-095 ↗

President Nixon instructed the White House operator to add Werner P. Gullander, the head of the National Association of Manufacturers (NAM), to his official call list. This brief administrative communication facilitated direct communication between the President and a key figure in the business community. No further policy discussions or significant decisions were recorded during this interaction.

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Yes, please.
Could you put Mr. Gullander, William Gullander of the NAM on that call list, please?
All right, sir.
Yeah, thank you.

On May 5, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:16 pm and 3:00 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 042-095 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 42-95

Date: May 5, 1971
Time: Unknown between 1:16 pm and 3:00 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with the White House operator.

[See Conversation No. 252-39]

     Call to Werner P. Gullander
           -National Association of Manufacturers [NAM]
           -Call List
  • 042-087 1:16 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:16 pm and 3:00 pm.
  • 042-088 1:16 PM · 55 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Peter M. Flanigan talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:16 pm and 3:00 pm.
  • 042-089 1:16 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:16 pm and 3:00 pm.
  • 042-090 1:16 PM · 50 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:16 pm and 3:00 pm.
  • 042-091 1:16 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:16 pm and 3:00 pm.
  • 042-092 1:16 PM · 42 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:16 pm and 3:00 pm.
  • 042-093 1:16 PM · 51 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Alvin Snyder talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:16 pm and 3:00 pm.
  • 042-094 1:16 PM · 21 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:16 pm and 3:00 pm.

Conversation 042-095, May 5, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/042-095 (accessed October 3, 2026).