Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 44 › Conversation 044-136

Nixon phone call with Bull on White House scheduling and Cabinet members

Tuesday, April 10, 1973 · 3:49 PM–3:50 PM ET · White House Telephone · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation044-136 on Tape 44StartTuesday, April 10, 1973 at 3:49 PMEndTuesday, April 10, 1973 at 3:50 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 044-136 ↗

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President Nixon instructed Stephen B. Bull to modify the attendee list for a scheduled Thursday reception by including domestic cabinet members while specifically excluding the Attorney General, the State Department, and the Department of Defense. He directed that key White House staff, including Roy Ash, John Ehrlichman, and H.R. Haldeman, be prioritized for discussions regarding veto strategies. The call concluded with Bull confirming the arrival of two congressmen, prompting the President to head to his next meeting.

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Yeah.
Yes, sir.
Steve Bell.
Hi, Steve.
On that thing Thursday, I think it would be good to add the domestic members of the cabinet.
Tell them it's not a command, not including the attorney general.
In other words, don't have the people from...
I'll tell you, on vetoes, first I want Roy Ash for sure, and obviously Ehrlichman, Holloman, anybody from the top White House people.
I mean, just three or four from the top White House staff there that work on this sort of thing, you know, on vetoes.
Roy Ash from the budget.
Then Weinberger, Lynn, and Butts should be there.
Weinberger, Lynn, and Butts.
National Rehabilitation.
I don't know.
I just have the domestic members of the cabinet.
All right, so we'll delete State and Defense and Attorney General.
Right.
All right, sir, fine.
Right.
And I think maybe I'd pick up the rest of them.
All right, sir, fine.
For your information, sir, the two congressmen are here.
They are here?
Yes, sir.
Okay, I'll come over now.

NARA Description

On April 10, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 3:49 pm to 3:50 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 044-136 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 044-136

Date: April 10, 1973
Time: 3:49 pm-3:50 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Stephen B. Bull.

[See also Conversation No. 426-41]

       President's schedule
             -Thursday afternoon reception attendees
                    -Domestic members of Cabinet
                    -Richard G. Kleindienst
                    -Roy L. Ash
                    -John D. Ehrlichman, H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                    -Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger, James T. Lynn, Earl L. Butz
             -Two Congressmen
                    -George A. Goodling
                    -Samuel L. Devine

Also recorded on April 10, 1973

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  • 044-134 3:45 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:45 pm and 3:46 pm.
  • 426-039 3:45 PM · 19 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:45 pm and 3:46 pm.
  • 044-135 3:46 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Richard K. Cook talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:46 pm and 3:47 pm.
  • 426-040 3:46 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Richard K. Cook met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:46 pm to 3:48 pm.
  • 426-041 3:49 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:49 pm to 3:50 pm.
  • 892-015 3:54 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:54 pm and 3:56 pm.
  • 892-016 3:56 PM · 45 min — President Richard M. Nixon, George A. Goodling, Samuel L. Devine, White House photographer, and Rose Mary Woods met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:56 pm to 4:42 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 044-136, April 10, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/044-136 (accessed October 5, 2026).