Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 45 › Conversation 045-053

Nixon, Reagan & Cox on Watergate scandal and Presidential resignation

Monday, April 30, 1973 · 10:48 PM–10:50 PM ET · White House Telephone · 2 min

ParticipantsWhite House operator; Cox, Tricia Nixon; Nixon, Richard M. (President); Reagan, Ronald W.Conversation045-053 on Tape 45StartMonday, April 30, 1973 at 10:48 PMEndMonday, April 30, 1973 at 10:50 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 045-053 ↗

Governor Ronald Reagan placed a courtesy call to President Richard Nixon to offer personal support and prayers following the President’s televised address regarding the Watergate scandal. The conversation focused on the resignations of H. R. Haldeman and John Ehrlichman, with Reagan affirming his continued loyalty to the administration. Nixon expressed appreciation for the gesture while emphasizing the necessity of their shared commitment to global peace amidst the ongoing political crisis.

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Hello?
Governor Reagan on the line.
Thank you.
Hello, Mr. President.
Hello, Ron.
How are you?
Just fine.
And how are you?
Well, I couldn't be better.
You must have
The time is so far different.
You're about only 7 o'clock or 8 o'clock there, huh?
Yes, yes.
How nice of you to call.
Well, I just wanted you to know we watched and my heart was with you.
I know what this must have been and what this must have been in all these days and what you've been through.
And I just wanted you to know that for whatever it's worth, I'm still behind.
And you can count on us.
We're still behind you out here.
And I wanted you to know that
You're in our prayers.
How nice of you to say that.
Well, let me tell you this, that we can be—each of us has a different religion, you know?
Yeah.
But God damn it, Ron, we have got to build peace in the world, and that's what I'm working on, and you're going to work on it and all the rest.
I just want you to know I so appreciate your calling and give my—
How did you ever marry such a pretty girl?
My God!
Well, just I'm lucky.
You're lucky.
That's right.
I was lucky.
Yes.
Yes, you were.
How nice of you to call.
Well, we just— You thought it was right speech, did you?
I did.
Very much so.
Yes.
Had to say it.
Had to say it.
I know how difficult it was, and I know what it must be with the fellows having to do what they did.
That's right.
They had to get out.
Yeah.
I can understand that it's— Right.
Where are you now?
Are you in Sacramento?
No, Los Angeles.
Good for you to get out of that miserable city.
Yeah.
Right.
Well, it's damn nice of you to call.
Well, just to— Okay.
This too shall pass.
Everything passes.
Thank you.
You bet.
All right.
Give our bag.
Give our bag.

On April 30, 1973, White House operator, Tricia Nixon Cox, President Richard M. Nixon, and Ronald W. Reagan talked on the telephone from 10:48 pm to 10:50 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 045-053 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 45-53

Date: April 30, 1973
Time: 10:48 pm - 10:50 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The White House operator talked with Tricia Nixon Cox.

     Telephone call from Ronald W. Reagan
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                            Conversation No. 45-53 (cont’d)

Tricia Cox conferred with the President.

[Begin conferral]

     Telephone call to Reagan

[End conferral]

The President talked with Reagan.

     Time of day

     Reagan’s call

     President’s ordeal
           -Reagan’s support

     World peace
          -Religious differences

     Nancy Reagan

     Watergate
          -President’s previous speech
                -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman and John D. Ehrlichman
                      -Resignations

     Reagan’s location
          -Sacramento
          -Los Angeles

     Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
                                              -38-

                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
  • 045-048 10:34 PM · 4 min — White House operator, Tricia Nixon Cox, and Richard G. Kleindienst talked on the telephone from 10:34 pm to 10:36 pm.
  • 045-049 10:39 PM · 2 min — White House operator, Tricia Nixon Cox, President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, Harry S. Dent, and [Dwight] David Eisenhower, II talked on the telephone from 10:39 pm to 10:40 pm.
  • 045-050 10:41 PM · 1 min — White House operator, Tricia Nixon Cox, and Adm. Thomas H. Moorer talked on the telephone from 10:41 pm to 10:42 pm.
  • 045-051 10:43 PM · 2 min — White House operator, Tricia Nixon Cox, Rose Mary Woods, and Henry A. Kissinger talked on the telephone from 10:43 pm to 10:45 pm.
  • 045-052 10:45 PM · 20 sec — Tricia Nixon Cox, White House operator, and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 10:45 pm and 10:48 pm.
  • 045-054 10:51 PM · 2 min — George P. Shultz and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone from 10:51 pm to 10:54 pm.
  • 045-055 10:54 PM · 44 sec — White House operator, President Richard M. Nixon, Tricia Nixon Cox, and Edward R. F. Cox talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 10:54 pm and 11:04 pm.
  • 045-056 10:54 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, Tricia Nixon Cox, and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 10:54 pm and 11:04 pm.

Conversation 045-053, May 1, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/045-053 (accessed October 22, 2026).