Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 45 › Conversation 045-086

Nixon phone call with Timmons on Congressional relations

Tuesday, May 1, 1973 · 1:22 PM–1:23 PM ET · White House Telephone · 44 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Timmons, William E.Conversation045-086 on Tape 45StartTuesday, May 1, 1973 at 1:22 PMEndTuesday, May 1, 1973 at 1:23 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 045-086 ↗

President Nixon calls William E. Timmons to reprimand him for his perceived passivity and negative attitude regarding congressional relations. Expressing frustration over criticisms from Representatives Leslie C. Arends and Gerald R. Ford, Nixon demands that Timmons take a more proactive approach in mobilizing congressional support. The conversation concludes with Timmons acknowledging the President's directives and committing to increased efforts in his legislative outreach.

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Hello?
Well, Mr. President, I don't want you to have the negative attitude you had this morning.
All right, sir.
I want you to get off your ass and just talk to Aarons and the rest.
And by God, you don't stimulate anything, but there's a lot of people that are for us.
Now you get off your ass and get up and get them to make a few things.
Is that clear?
Yes, sir, it sure is.
Jerry and Les wanted to come down and see you.
I guess that was handled on the phone, though.
I just talked to Les.
Good.
But he was complaining about the fact that you weren't doing a goddamn thing.
So get off your ass and do something.
All right, sir.
All right.
We're at it.
Bye.

On May 1, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and William E. Timmons talked on the telephone from 1:22 pm to 1:23 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 045-086 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 45-86

Date: May 1, 1973
Time: 1:22 pm - 1:23 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with William E. Timmons.

[See also Conversation No. 433-18]

     Timmons’s negative attitude

     President’s conversation with Leslie C. Arends
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                            Conversation No. 45-86 (cont’d)

     Orders to Timmons
          -Congressional relations
                 -Congress members’s statements

     President’s conversation with Arends
           -Timmons
           -Gerald R. Ford
  • 045-084 1:18 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Leslie C. Arends talked on the telephone from 1:18 pm to 1:20 pm.
  • 433-016 1:18 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Leslie C. Arends met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:18 pm to 1:20 pm.
  • 045-085 1:20 PM · 17 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:20 pm and 1:22 pm.
  • 433-017 1:20 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:20 pm and 1:22 pm.
  • 433-018 1:22 PM · 42 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and William E. Timmons met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:22 pm to 1:23 pm.
  • 045-087 1:23 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and Gerald R. Ford talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:23 pm and 1:24 pm.
  • 433-019 1:24 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Gerald R. Ford met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:24 pm to 1:26 pm.
  • 433-088 1:26 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:26 pm and 1:28 pm.

Conversation 045-086, May 1, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/045-086 (accessed October 5, 2026).