On August 10, 1971, Richard M. Nixon, Sisowath Sirik Matak,Sophia Porson, Ronald L. Ziegler, Oliver ("Ollie") Atkins, Henry A. Kissinger, and members of the press met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 11:54 am and 12:00 pm. The Cabinet Room taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 068-008 of the White House Tapes.
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This is the candidate room.
That's why he was detained, because he had a meeting with the church.
He was suspended.
I was just unfortunate that the foreign minister asked me about the instructions.
It was just a meeting.
This is the rose garden right here.
That's where I got married.
And...
There's a press room that they have down there.
So we're ready to go up to the press club.
It could go on an hour.
It could go an hour and a half.
The interpreter, yeah.
I know that Ms. Horson, she is state department and an interpreter, president, one we might start to interpret.
As I said, that's the president's chair.
In fact, it says right here, the president.
And then there's the secretary of state, Rogers.
And the Secretary of Defense, Blair.
Congress.
Secretary of Defense.
And then he tells me he doesn't think any time.
Well, that has only been a recession.
I can't think of that.
I don't want to do that.
I had to.
Would you like to see a coffee, Captain?
It tastes a bit funny.
Well, why don't you just like it?
I'll be knocking the door down here in a second.
No, no.
You don't get lost in the corn here.
It goes, gets back, and then I'll take that.
Good.
Catherine, do you want some tea?
I've asked her, do you want some?
Three teas, please.
Not bad.
What happened?
No, I'm okay.
I'll see what I can do.
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I wanted to understand.
I don't like good legs.
Can I have the legs again?
No, no, no, please don't do it.
I'm just trying to find good legs.
Faisal?
Yes, Faisal.
You know, that's it.
You go to prison for that.
No, because I don't damage the more of the drawing that I did.
You said it's good, though.
Is that right?
I love Faisal.
They're beautiful.
Aren't they nice?
Beautiful.
But you have so many fierce couples, I don't know if you want any more.
I don't have any.
I have a special one from the President out there, sir.
From the President?
From the President.
But I have one special from the President.
See, now, I don't have a special one from the President.
I ask everyone or friends around here, but they don't give me any.
You see, to me, my birthday in 1969, he forgot my birthday this year.
It's the Master's birthday this year.
Well, I can't wait for the thank you.
Of the Master's?
Yes.
Everything goes out the door.
He's coming back, I guess.
The residents, they live upstairs, on that side.
Well, you see, why the White House does not have, well, in the other way there, in the executive way there, they afforded, where they have the state functions that did us a session, the rules are very high.
I'm asking the president for the safety of the president.
It all depends on our time, Captain.
If the run's late, we may have to go direct from here to the press club.
Am I pronouncing your name right, Captain?
Sisolak, yes, I thought so.
Sisolak.
I'm a whore.
A cigarette lighter.
It's a present from you.
A present.
It's one of those felt tip pens.
Yes.
Yes.
Just the last name?
No.
Sure.
All right.
Sure.
All right.
I think you're sending him on the 22nd in Hawaii.
Are you going to send the 22nd, the 23rd, the 24th, I believe, on the 25th?
I believe so, yeah.
the prime minister.
So we went to the academy at .
When we came up, I was back.
I left you here, and I went back into the diplomatic interests.
And he was telling us that maybe he has to cut his trip shorter.
He may have to go back sooner.
I'm sorry to hear that.
We have a nice schedule .
New York, Colorado.
Oh, I see.
Oh, that's not so bad.
25th?
On the 21st?
I see.
What are you doing in Tokyo?
On the 25th?
On the 26th.
I see.
We didn't embarrass your foreign minister and your ambassador this morning because the meeting between the president and the prime minister
It was just the two of them.
As I told Ambassador yesterday, Ambassador Stone, I said it would be just the two of them.
They would remain in our warehouse.
And in the event that your president or Prime Minister or President Nixon wishes, he could bring them right over.
But they got in the car.
And the fit was quite kind of confusing.
I was what I told the Prime Minister.
And I did.
And he?
Right.
I see, I see, I see.
You should have told me that, because then I could have brought him over here.
But Mr. McCarthy is over there.
In case we run late, Mr. McCarthy, we will go direct to the press club, and Mr. McCarthy will bring them over.
to the press about it.
Well, I just didn't want to point that knee.
I didn't want to put them in an embarrassing position and not let them wake up in here just as well.
But as the department had been into the White House, I wonder if you've seen last, I think maybe last year, because the ambassador has been here.
More of those for the rest of your party.
Yes.
You think they would enjoy having one?
Yes.
Thank you.
Thank you.
As I say, there's a captain room and down there, which we can walk down if you'd like, is the reception room.
The press room is over there.
That used to be the swimming pool.
There is still a swimming pool there, but it's covered over.
Because President Nixon doesn't like to swim indoor.
He likes the ocean and the beach.
But when President Johnson was in office, President Johnson used to use the swimming class.
And also President Kennedy.
President Kennedy, because of therapy, you know, he had a back problem.
But because President Nixon doesn't use it, they covered over the floor.
And now they use that as a press room to give the press people more space.
There's only one man who is a White House photographer.
All of those are from all press states all over the country.
UPAP, The Washington Post, and The New York Times, and most of those things all over the country.
We want to see the reception.
He probably told the ambassador that they're not going, so .
Thank you.
There you go.
I must be hungry.
You've been invited to the National Press Club, haven't you?
Yes.
Yes.
Does it keep you busy?
Sometimes, yeah.
I don't need to see you all the time.
It's nice to meet you.
I'd like to have the term to be a father.
I see.
A captain.
I see your name.
Captain, sister, wife.
Sir, right?
Is that, is Sissawat a family name?
Family name.
Family name.
First, but they address you by your family name.
Family name.
Sissawat.
Is that what you call Captain Sissawat or Captain?
Sissawat.
Oh, Sissawat.
Yeah, Captain Sissawat.
Not Sirat.
The same as your father, who was...
Like Lieutenant General Sissawat Saramatak.
That's a lovely name.
But we need to introduce those primates to Saramatak.
Is that proper?
Yes.
Your address is Captain Sissawat.
the official White House photographer, the president's photographer.
Oh, yes.
the one who goes in with the rest of the people and takes pictures of them.
He tells everybody to leave.
We have to find out what... Well, we have more than one.
But he actually was cleansed by that official.
Your party is very small compared to some of the people we have come.
We had...
President Mobutu came with 67 people.
We had President Suharto Indonesia come with 70.
President Pompidou came suddenly.
We were supposed to have King Hassan of Morocco.
And when he was coming, he was coming in May, but he had to cancel his trip.
Well, not because, no, this was before the attempted assassination.
He came, he was supposed to come in May for, excuse me,
I must be hungry.
He was supposed to come in May, but he sent his prime minister and prime minister to apologize and ask for a postponement because of the Arab summit meeting that was taking place, which he had to be at.
He was coming over with 130 people.
You don't think that's a problem?
It's not, it's not so bad.
We do the car, right, the cars.
Well, then I have, then I recruit more people.
See, I have three protocol officers plus the two secretaries who help out.
And usually in a party this size, one protocol officer is enough and a secretary.
But then I have people like Mr. Passwaters,
in California, who is not connected with the State Department, but is a personal friend of mine.
And he does it just to help us out because he's familiar with how we like to arrange these things.
And then when we go to New York, there will be another gentleman there to help us out.
Then when we go to San Francisco, there will be another man.
Because these people are personal friends of mine.
And rather than me sending my protocol officer or I myself going out, I just call them on the telephone and say, we're coming with 30, 40 people.
We need so many rooms.
We need this, we need that.
And then I call the arrangements.
It makes it easier for us.
The president, the president's that way too.
He doesn't like us.
You know when our president's right?
Yeah.
But as you see, we have quite a bit of security on our plane.
In fact, we have 11 who fly with us.
It's me from North Bend to Vancouver.
Alexis Johnson, yes.
I think he was supposed to be ambassador.
He was a dietitian.
Yeah, he asked me to drop in.
You know how this goes.
Please, please, please, relax, relax, relax.
This is your problem.
I had to eat it for you, but they must have probably got it.
Ambassador, have you just given up drinking tea?
Well, I don't know.
Very cold or anything?
It's too bad.
It's too bad.
Well, you don't have vacation for me.
Get exercise, then swim down, go fishing.
Well, I... What did I say?
I caught the shark.
I caught the shark mainly with Gany.
Is that new?
Yeah.
Oh, so you are this big?
Yeah.
Well, mine was this big.
Oh, because you are big, so I think you're going to be the first one this year.
Oh, from the council.
Yeah, I don't understand.
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm a big fool.
You caught a shark.
Two macarellas and four frogs.
I got four clothes.
Over there, no blues.
I'm going to have one song.
I'm going to have the 12-month-old.
He looks like a good moontrop to fish in the dry.
You have a guy to hook to fish in the dry.
That's not my responsibility.
You see, there's a funny thing.
I talked to the guy who goes, for a long time I've not caught my fish in the dry.
At this time, I prepared him over there, the cash taker.