Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 85 › Conversation 085-011

White House tour group on White House tour and Cabinet Room

Friday, December 3, 1971 · 12:00 AM–10:08 AM ET · Cabinet Room · 3 min

ParticipantsWhite House tour groupConversation085-011 on Tape 85StartFriday, December 3, 1971 at 12:00 AMEndFriday, December 3, 1971 at 10:08 AMRecording deviceCabinet RoomSourceNixon Library record for 085-011 ↗

A White House tour group was guided through the Cabinet Room to observe the layout and furnishings of the executive office. The discussion focused on identifying specific seating arrangements for the President, Vice President, and cabinet-level secretaries, while noting the significance of various presidential portraits. The participants also briefly inspected the room’s chairs, specifically checking for standardized identification markings on the furniture.

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This is the cabin room.
And the president sits here.
The vice president is right by our side.
You might like to just walk around and look at the brass plates on the backs of the chairs.
It's not in your case, but it's worth it.
And I think this is a story you can do often.
Secretary of State, Secretary of State, Secretary of State, Secretary of State, Secretary of State, Secretary of State, Secretary of State, Secretary of State,
Yes, president for the school.
Yes.
It's interesting, in the case of Andrew Jackson, who was in the trial for the Civil Rights Corporation, and now by way of a lawsuit, I don't think that's necessary.

On December 3, 1971, a White House tour group met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 12:00 am and 10:08 am. The Cabinet Room taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 085-011 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 85-11

Date: Unknown between December 3 and December 6, 1971
Time: Unknown between 12:00 am, December 3 and 10:08 am, December 6, 1971
Location: Cabinet Room

A tour group met

     Cabinet Room
          -The President’s and Vice President’s chairs
          -Brass plates on chairs
          -Secretary of State
          -Secretary of Defense

          -Secretary of the Treasury
          -Attorney General
          -Portraits
          -Types of meetings
                -Cabinet
                -Domestic Council
                -National Security Council
                -Bill-signing ceremonies
          -Andrew Jackson
          -[Thomas] Woodrow Wilson
          -Dwight D. Eisenhower

The tour group left at an unknown time before 10:08 am, December 6, 1971
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  • 085-002 12:00 AM — unknown person(s) met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 12:00 am and 10:08 am.
  • 085-003 12:00 AM — unknown person(s) met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 12:00 am and 10:08 am.
  • 085-004 12:00 AM — unknown person(s) met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 12:00 am and 10:08 am.
  • 085-006 12:00 AM — a White House tour group met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 12:00 am and 10:08 am.
  • 085-007 12:00 AM — unknown person(s) met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 12:00 am and 10:08 am.
  • 085-008 12:00 AM — a White House tour group met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 12:00 am and 10:08 am.
  • 085-009 12:00 AM — a White House tour group met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 12:00 am and 10:08 am.

Conversation 085-011, December 3, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/085-011 (accessed October 12, 2026).