Nixon, Griffin & Smith on Vietnam War and Economic policy

5:10:42These are the kind of problems that you get when people say, well, we don't know what the president's domestic accomplishments have been.
5:10:51So we're going to deal here mostly with hard facts, mostly with accomplishments.
5:10:56And you'll see that they're not only presidential accomplishments, but also congressional accomplishments.
5:11:02So there's something for everybody.
5:11:05I'd like to talk very quickly about the three in this order.
5:11:08Exploiting, crime, and not employment.
5:11:11I can draw your attention to the one-armed employee who has had a few facts on the economy, because there have been several aspects of the economy growth.
5:11:19I'm sure you're fully aware of all the facts that have been verified that you can use.
5:11:26And of course, this business of the inflation change is where I have some more numbers out on Friday.
5:11:32When those come out, we'll update this.
5:11:34And then you'll receive an updated version of some of these facts.
5:11:40And now, you can confidently say the rate of inflation has been stopped cold.
5:11:47It has zero increase.
5:11:50New prices have leveled off.
5:11:51Fruit and vegetable prices have declined.
5:11:55Cost of consumer services has risen only by 0.2% for the second consecutive month.
5:12:02The inflation rate since the freeze, 2.8%, as you see in the graph at the bottom.
5:12:08But the really important number in this whole thing is under the heading wages, and it's the second line.
5:12:15Real earnings for workers from 1970 to the present has been 6%.
5:12:18Those are real in-pocket gains after inflation has taken half of it, so that the worker now gets that dollar to have for the first time since 1966.
5:12:31That's the other list for five years.
5:12:35Workers thought they were getting wage increases.
5:12:39They didn't.
5:12:40Their wage increases were totally eaten up by price increases.
5:12:44Now, by raising up our program to find a degree, million American workers have begun to get off the treadmill and make some progress.
5:12:52Now, of course, we'll have various people, so many workers, that say, we did better than that, and that this is an act, but this shows that when it shows a 6% increase, it deters real, suspendable earnings.
5:13:01It's quite a good thing to use if you're talking to an audience that can take advantage of it.
5:13:09Now, just to give you an example, the graph at the bottom of the page is lifted right out of the budget documents.
5:13:17Do you remember when the budget came out of this anywhere?
5:13:20It was a book of charts called Budget Highlights.
5:13:23I encourage you all to use this book.
5:13:28Obviously it spoke as of January.
5:13:30We'll try and update a lot of the numbers that are in here.
5:13:34But the graph you see at the bottom is this graph out of the budget highlights, updated to today.
5:13:40And you see the trend in the consumer price index, which is a very favorable trend.
5:13:43It's something that we encourage you to use to talk about.
5:13:47Let's turn quickly to the vaccine on crime.
5:13:53The top of the number one paragraph deals with the crime rate globally in cities across the country, the national crime rate and the D.C. crime rate.
5:14:03The reason the D.C. crime rate is important is because this city is the only one in which the administration has direct linkage.
5:14:12In all the other cities across the country, we send the money out, but it's a question of global administration, global control, local application of the money.
5:14:21Here in D.C., this administration, with the help of Congress and various reforms that have been passed, has direct linkage and has proved on a model city basis that you can achieve a net reduction in the crime rate.
5:14:36In fact, in the district, of course, the crime rate has been cut in half since this administration came into office.
5:14:42But over a third of our major cities in the United States have expressed net decreases in their local crime rates, and the national crime rate is the lowest since six years.
5:14:52So when you hear this business about this law and order administration not getting themselves, here are the facts to put that falling line up.
5:15:04The dollars that Congress has appropriated, I think, speak as loud as any other single factor.
5:15:10With the President's leadership, the amount of federal dollars applied to the crime problem in the United States has gone from $22 million in three years under the previous administration to $1.5 billion in three years under this administration.
5:15:27In other words, $22 million against $1,500 million under the previous administration.
5:15:34You make that point, it's altogether valid, but you invite your opponent to point out that there were only a few months remaining in the fiscal year just before the end of the Johnson administration in which the 22 million dollars could have been spent.
5:15:51That's a dangerous fact.
5:15:53Well, I think the important point here, Congressman Powell, is that there was no leadership in the Johnson administration
5:16:02That there wasn't any reason why this kind of a program couldn't have been applied to meet the problem three years before.
5:16:09But they fiddled around until the very end of that administration, before they got this program, with very strong Republican support, I might say, in the Congress.
5:16:19And that this administration and this Congress have very vigorously attacked this problem during the first three years of this administration.
5:16:31Now, I agree with your point, but you can take appropriations outside of the LEA as a specific program, and ask them, well, did you get the same kind of regulations?
5:16:41I agree, John.
5:16:42In a similar context,
5:16:45I think it suggests that you have to be careful with the phrase you often use to speak of the crime rate.
5:16:52You just made a classic mistake.
5:16:54You said that the crime rate was lowest for six years.
5:16:58That is not correct.
5:17:00I think that's what I said, but if I didn't, I'd stand corrected.
5:17:07What we're talking about here always is increase and decrease.
5:17:12We have expressed net increase in the district of Colonia and in a third of the cities around the country nationally.
5:17:26We're still dealing with a net increase rate.
5:17:30And that increased rate is below what you can see here.
5:17:35It's basically like a budget.
5:17:37So I completely press that as the best example because for the first month, six years, we had no increase in the adjustment basis of the CDI.
5:17:46So the price has changed.
5:17:49We're always talking about the rate of increase, whether inflation has gone up or down, and as population increases, it's inevitable that crime has gone up, but it's the rate of increase of crime that we're always talking about.
5:18:05If we can slow that down, we're gaining on the problem.
5:18:10This district, let me say, is a flat, cut in half of crime area, whereas the major crimes are running at 200.
5:18:21It wasn't 200, it was 22.
5:18:24It's now less than 100.
5:18:26It's not that bad.
5:18:29Summarize that the bottom of that vaccine are three important pieces of legislation that this Congress has enacted as the President's request.
5:18:38The third vaccine are unemployment.
5:18:40I might say generically that as a group I promise you that there will be two ways of it.
5:18:46Talking about unemployment.
5:18:48One is to say, well, unemployment is as bad a problem as the opposition says it is, and you can break it down demographically.
5:18:56And there is some material on this back sheet that could take that approach.
5:19:00Do you feel that the best approach to take in talking about unemployment is to say, unemployment remains a problem?
5:19:06If it is the way that we are, yes, that's right.
5:19:10With the results that we have,
5:19:15We're doing everything we know how to do to solve the problem.
5:19:19We're optimistic that we're going to make even greater gains.
5:19:23The gains that we have made are extraordinary considering the great turnaround that we've had in this country from a defense and war economy to a peacetime economy.
5:19:34Many, many, many civilian jobs have been created in the fact that you get to those numbers.
5:19:39And you can talk either about employment, where the numbers are very, very good, or unemployment, where the numbers still aren't good enough.
5:19:46And you can run against unemployment so speedy by saying, we're not satisfied, it's so intense for this country, we're doing everything we know how to do, we're panning ourselves, we're going to get better results in the future, and so you're not put in the position of apologizing for such and such a ring of unemployment in particular.
5:20:06...moment of time.
5:20:07This summarizes, in fact, it summarizes the employment side, it summarizes the success that are being figured out on the unemployment side, and it's intended to be a foundation for whatever statistic of that is going to earn a few times.
5:20:38Well, you'll be seeing more of these fact sheets in the very short run.
5:20:43If you have suggestions for topics, or if you have suggestions for improvements, we think we have.
5:20:49Our criteria are that we give you only provable facts, and that we keep it on one page.
5:20:55But beyond that, we're wide open.
5:21:28These are very excellent, Mr. President, and there'll be more.
5:21:31We'll get some better rhetoric and so on.
5:21:34But they're very beneficial if you're going out to the mountains.
5:21:37You can have them available and use them.
5:21:39But I suggest a honey plant.
5:21:41John Connolly, by the street, is on the page.
5:21:44I mean, I wouldn't get a call from you.
5:21:47First, I think you can talk about the possibility that since the new economic policy and all this, that a million, whatever it is, a million men have jobs.
5:21:55Second, with regard to what I'm finding among breadwinners and so forth, I think it's as low as it has been in the last five years.
5:22:02I mean, the problem is that we come from a labor market where people have to come out of the armed services and out of defense lines, which should always be made available.
5:22:13et cetera.
5:22:14And obviously, at least in the United States of America.
5:22:18Then I would, I also would, I'm sorry if I leave you.
5:22:22There's those of you who can't do this in some areas, and I think you should.
5:22:28It's John Collins saying that they know.
5:22:35Every in a large city, you might just pick up your newspaper and take along the help wanted ads.
5:22:38Whether it's Los Angeles, Miami, New York, Nebraska, you'll find pages and pages of help wanted ads from the same unemployment.
5:22:44And I think you should make the point that part of the unemployment problem, not all part of the unemployment problem, is that there's this attitude of our people.
5:23:02They will not take a job if they consider their job to be meaningful.
5:23:06And this should not be the case.
5:23:09Their job doesn't make any sense.
5:23:12They have help wanted at a very, very high level, and on a fundamentally high level.
5:23:19Perhaps some of it starts with demagoguery, but it's their point of view.
5:23:24And that also gets you into the welfare thing.
5:23:28Mr. President, you may be interested that we're putting these fact sheets into a loose-loop binder with indexed divisions of our stakeholders, and having them available at our Kennedy's Congress.
5:23:39Thank you very much.
5:23:42Well, let's see.
5:23:43We have a brief report from the Senate House today.
5:23:47Well, in the House of Representatives, we have another rather slow week this week.
5:23:57It's anticipated, however, that revenue sharing will get a rule probably next week sometime, and it'll be on the floor of the House either in the week of the 15th, which is a week from Monday, or the 27th, which is the following week.
5:24:17I think it will pass the House with a very substantial margin.
5:24:26We also have for the Rules Committee now, and the rule probably will be granted, the minimum wage legislation.
5:24:52The committee reported out, typically in that committee, very bad legislation.
5:24:59It not only goes to two dollars immediately, but it includes about five extra provisions for extended coverage, all of which are bad.
5:25:11There's one that is a very definite protectionist provision,
5:25:17It's our strategy to come up with a substitute.
5:25:22John Irwin Board will offer the substitute.
5:25:25It calls for a straight $2 package from Greece, and it knocks out all of the extended coverage, including the protectionist provision.
5:25:36It does, however, add a provision which we think is very desirable for youth differential.
5:25:45The argument always is minimum wage increases knock out the job opportunities for younger people.
5:25:54We allegedly have in the law now a use differential, but it is rather meaningless.
5:26:01The Erlenborn substitute will have a really beneficial use differential.
5:26:06Now, we've been trying to get John Erlenborn to reduce his $2 figure, but John's stuck with it.
5:26:16John Anderson's going to offer an amendment to the substitute to take the increase from $1.60 to $1.80,
5:26:23And then 12 months later, we've always done before, whenever we've had increases in weight, we've fixed it in rather than going to the top figure meeting.
5:26:35Now we've taken a whip check to see whether our members would support John Anderson's substitute, or the amendments to the Ireland Board's substitute.
5:26:46The WIP check is encouraging, but certainly it means we've got some work to do if we're going to get the amendment to prevail.
5:26:56We are negotiating with some friends on the other side, trying to convince them that the Anderson amendment is desirable.
5:27:08It'll be a very close vote on that.
5:27:10I would strongly urge you to just be sure you have time for a veto.
5:27:15I think there are many of us, including myself, if we are unsuccessful in our substitute or hand as an amendment, many of us will vote against the committee bill.
5:27:18It's really bad legislation.
5:27:43I guess the sound of the money has gone to my forehead.
5:27:47I just wanted to say it before you did.
5:27:59But those two are the major proposals that will come before the House prior to Memorial Day weekend recess.
5:28:07After that, we hope to have the first, probably the only, reorganization proposal, the one that Chef Hollowfield has been working quite conscientiously on.
5:28:21If we can get the community development
5:28:27The rest of them are so controversial, I don't think they're going to be done in 1972.
5:28:35Health insurance...
5:28:43John Burns reported to me yesterday that he thinks it's helpful for humanity action in 1972.
5:28:47John was optimistic about some action in private pension field in 1972.
5:28:49On the House side at least, I can't speak for the Senate, but John Burns thinks there is a chance on the House side for such action.
5:28:55Other than
5:29:13I would say that...
5:29:18The Committee on Appropriations is about ready to move on a number of those appropriation bills, and I told on the Senate side that we're in pretty good shape once we get them over there.
5:29:30So this may move more rapidly than is apparent at this time.
5:29:35We have the authorization bill for...
5:29:44So, that will come to the floor of the House publicly after Memorial Day.
5:29:56After those rules committees
5:30:15The time is getting short.
5:30:17Perhaps the military situation will be clarified.
5:30:21I don't think this will come to the floor of the House before the 1st of June.
5:30:28I think that will either be way ahead or we'll be in trouble.
5:30:32So I think they're putting in a hurry on our part to expedite the districts that are killed.
5:30:41Could I suggest one thing to the leaders and so forth that have these problems with regard to the war and the resolution and so forth and so on?
5:30:53At this critical point, at this critical point, with, as you know,
5:31:06The negotiating craft as well as a time of decision for South Vietnam and for the Congress to undercut the President would in my view completely destroy our negotiating position and would lead to
5:31:38It would destroy the president's negotiating position, and the Congress would have to take responsibility for the destruction of the negotiating position at this point in time.
5:31:51The enemy is just looking for that.
5:31:54And we've taken a strong hand.
5:31:56Actually, they followed the ORC poll, but they held it in Congress.
5:32:00The Congress takes the position.
5:32:03It will undercut the negotiations.
5:32:05It will give the enemy enormous courage.
5:32:08It could be the critical factor in destroying...
5:32:14And we did the South Vietnamese will to recession.
5:32:22So, I think we can put it right on the line.
5:32:25We had fun last week.
5:32:28Our fellow asked us about the...
5:32:33I think we'll be in as good shape as the House in the future if we get something like that.
5:32:56That's about where we are legislatively in the House.
5:32:59But I also suggest that both the House and Senate, despite the fact that they do not expect to get results, keep hammering for the bus and monitoring, keep hammering for it, because that will be a critical issue as time goes on.
5:33:13I might make a comment on that, but...
5:33:18We are continuing to try and get people to sign the discharge petition, and I know four or five who are about to do it, and will sometime this week, once you get over that 170 mark in the whole class, so it starts to go on its own.
5:33:34We're also opening negotiations with Bill Comer to see if we can't get the full committee to...
5:33:45take away from the House Committee on Education under that legislation, which they are obviously not going to act on.
5:33:54I can't really report on it, except that there's nothing to report anyway, about what happened yesterday in that stupid session.
5:34:25I mentioned a lot in the room here, we're sorry to hear about Senator Fulbright's setback earlier in the week when he only got 15 votes, and then Secretary of State, he had all the Republicans except one voting with us on that.
5:34:42That was the Canadian courts of the fight on the State of Portland USA authorization bill, which is now on the floor.
5:34:51And the painting business is the amendment by John Stennis to strike out what's referred to as the church's language in the bill, reported by the committee, which would end all U.S. function for all military operations in Indochina by this year.
5:35:12With the support of George Aiken, John Cooper and others, right now, frankly, we think we've got the votes to win the Senate.
5:35:21Unfortunately, I expect the vote to be a little closer than I would like to see, but I think we've got the votes.
5:35:30We're going to try to get us to a vote this week.
5:35:37If we could get back to a boat, I think we're then going to be faced, however, with the ministry of America over here, which will be offered by Byrd this week, if we get that far, or by the ministry next week.
5:35:52Once we get by the end-of-war boats, I think we'll quickly wind up at the State Department-USI opposition bill, and then the next thing on the calendar
5:36:05We're going to start with John on that today, but I think that's a good change, and it's good for both.
5:36:17Well, there's one thing that I should have mentioned.
5:36:22You know the Democrats had a caucus about ten days ago, and after a very bloody two-day fast, they came up with a directive to Dr. Martin, chairman of the Committee on Foreign Affairs, to report out legislation that would conform to their...
5:36:41Well, I've been in California for about four days.
5:36:46I didn't talk to Doc.
5:36:50I did talk to him just before I left.
5:37:00He was then trying to get us around in some way or other.
5:37:05But it didn't sort of affect me how he was going to do it.
5:37:11You're fine with that?
5:37:12Wayne Hayes, who's not often our ally, and we can say when he is, he's fine.
5:37:21...told me that he was going to do everything he could to thwart any action here at any time.
5:37:30He's a pretty agile, imaginative fellow when he feels that way.
5:37:37So maybe we've got an ally that can help us, even though most of us don't like what he does often. ...
5:37:50Well, I have nothing to add to that.
5:37:53I think that in this case,
5:38:15I understand they will offer the backfield amendment, whether that fixes the date.
5:38:34I'm not taking pictures a day, but as far as I'm concerned, it's like some of the other days that I used to go to New York office.
5:38:43It's like, I always ask them to fix a date.
5:38:48So I don't understand the conditions that might be approved.
5:38:55I'm not sure about that.
5:38:58But certainly we have to thank Russia for the one-sided vote the other day on the 27th of 15th.
5:39:09And that's all.
5:39:11And incidentally, Russia's stock is not going up very high, as I see it, either in the economy store or within public.
5:39:23And unless you bring back some pretty good proposals from Moscow, or...
5:39:31I think they can send it to Kenya.
5:39:35I hope they realize that.
5:39:42The supplement was in that state authorization bill, which took them out.
5:39:55But I didn't find too many of that bill, and I was torn.
5:40:03I had to constantly take care of them, and...
5:40:07When they get into concerts, and that was probably the easiest way to get them out, they might come out with a pretty good bail time.
5:40:14A couple days in front of the bowl.
5:40:17Thank you.
5:40:20Yesterday, you sent me a message of default action.
5:40:25I wound up recommending the absentees, but... You're doing such a good job in comparison to those who are not absentees.
5:40:36I'd ask you to check it out if you want.
5:40:39Thank you.
5:41:09Mr. President, I hope you will encourage, keep encouraging the Vice President to take off and do nothing in Congress.
5:41:15I think I was very encouraged by the things the report is telling me.
5:41:21This is a good way to attack on this weapon.
5:41:26How is that?
5:41:27I don't think he needs to be encouraged.
5:41:32I don't think he needs to be encouraged.
5:41:37Mr President, along the lines of Senator Aiken's statement, it seems to me to be a good thing if the people of the country knew that Russia is still supplying the North Vietnamese people during this offensive.
5:41:52With the figures which the Admiral gave us as the number of ships that are in those harbors,
5:41:58I have the feeling that for some reason other people in the country think that because we bombed Taichung once, then maybe once, that the Russians have backed away from serving us.
5:42:10Are you suggesting, George, that I should not go to Russia?
5:42:15No.
5:42:15No.
5:42:15I'm asking you just as an opinion.
5:42:20I don't know why this is happening.
5:42:26I think your point is that you go, but of course the plan is still off.
5:42:31You're sure that you'll go.
5:42:32The air talk, depending on the contractor, is not as benign as it might be.
5:42:37Maybe it's not as much as it ought to be.
5:42:40Why don't you say something about that?
5:42:42Not enough.
5:42:43It's in the front of me right now, and there is a change, I think, in the public sentiment towards voting.
5:42:52Yes, that's me.
5:42:53But here's one other suggestion.
5:42:56Two weeks ago, some of the New York Times had a story, you know, on page 16 or 18 or somewhere, showing how the homeowners in South Vietnam were fighting back.
5:43:08And even among that, we're joining them.
5:43:13And I think you know that, but the Catholics just don't want that sort of contact.
5:43:20And it seems to me that, I don't know how much progress has been made, but I'm glad to be a good sign for Moritz.
5:43:57It's one of the reasons that this house being banned would only speed up some of those things, and get some publicity out of it.
5:44:07I think they have set it up, George.
5:44:09Yes, but your search is right, it doesn't get out of it.
5:44:13You have all the publicity coming out of Saigon.
5:44:16Correct.
5:44:20Well, we don't have to do this.
5:44:21I wanted to say one thing, that you will have to keep in confidence until 11 o'clock, because the announcement will not be made until then.
5:44:29But I think I should share with the leaders my thoughts on the FBI.
5:44:35And you know I'm doing something somewhat unprecedented.
5:44:44Senator Pearson.
5:44:49which I don't believe in the exceptions.
5:44:50I'm excited that I will deliver the village to the ruler tomorrow morning.
5:44:52It'll be a break in ten minutes, but I've got them.
5:44:53So, I'm sure there's 380 presidents, but the president ought to be able to do it rather than having to take on this in the office.
5:44:56And Dr.
5:44:57Latch, it's a very simple subject.
5:44:58As a ceremony, Dr.
5:44:58Latch will give the invitation, and Dr. Elson will give the invitation.
5:45:17She probably noted that by his parents' endowment, what is now a jury in Section 1, Latin America, was born.
5:45:26With regard to the successor, I've been doing a great deal of giving a great deal of thought to it, and what Bob said certainly bears out the wisdom of the decision I made in regard to it.
5:45:41When we consider the fact that the director of the FBI, Hoover, one director, served under eight presidents, two republicans and six democrats, three republicans and five democrats,
5:45:54We're all with equal loyalty and with non-partisanship.
5:45:59It seems to me that it's enormously important to keep that position.
5:46:06And the confirmation and the direction it is confirmed by this time, however, is not partisan.
5:46:14Political debate in an election year.
5:46:17I have found that by checking the law, that in the event of the incapacity of the directors to operate, the Attorney General has the right to appoint active directors.
5:46:31...for a period of time, which was not limited.
5:46:35And consequently, I have authorized claims to make an appointment of an acting director and interim director, and it will be announced today that the president will, having, I will set forth these facts about what we need, and that the director of the FBI, who is the president of the department,
5:46:53That he'd be appointed after the election.
5:46:56By, of course, whoever is president at that point.
5:46:58The elected president.
5:46:59He'd be appointed after the election, and his name would be submitted to the Senate for confirmation of that.
5:47:05Otherwise, you see what could happen.
5:47:07What could happen is he'd be appointed directly to now.
5:47:10Not to the point...
5:47:12Shall we say, the land beyond repute is the greatest law enforcement officer in the world, and it would get better partisan debate down there in the Senate, and the Bureau would be in turmoil after November, when his name would happen to be incidentally.
5:47:36It's like an appointment to the Supreme Court.
5:47:38He has to submit his resignation the minute the election occurs.
5:47:42And a new president, if he did not happen to be meeting with somebody else, we cannot have it that way.
5:47:51So the decision that I made is that we will have an acting director, which will not be submitted because he does not need to be.
5:47:57He will be a good man, I'm sure.
5:48:00He will serve through the record.
5:48:03And that act of the record, on a political level, is ruled out in the great tradition in which Hooger was appointed.
5:48:11But that's not my job.
5:48:13That's a decision I've made, and I trust that you will all support it.
5:48:17But I think they have to steer their animations that way.
5:48:22Well, I had thought all the time, if you're making a point to tell, I can't have such a wonderful... No, I had thought that that might be a problem.
5:48:31I know you and your experience will see that.
5:48:38Mr. President, I...
5:48:41I haven't seen some problems in that.
5:48:43But I didn't have a...
5:48:46I don't think you're in the position that Lyndon Johnson was when he was going around again.
5:48:54It is a Supreme Court nomination.
5:48:56You see, if it were a Supreme Court nomination, there would be no question.
5:49:01Send it right now.
5:49:03And of course, you're not going to have the cabinet.
5:49:07Send it right now.
5:49:10You see, this is a very...
5:49:12It's a very special appointment.
5:49:15The director of the FBI should serve through administration after administration.
5:49:19It should have continuity.
5:49:21It shouldn't be subject to a political change.
5:49:24That's why, for example, when Hoover came in after my election, he submitted his resignation.
5:49:29I reappointed him.
5:49:30Of course, I would have because of my personal respect and affection for him.
5:49:36But I didn't consider that there was any choice, because I just felt that under the circumstances, it shouldn't be treated as one of those political problems like the others.
5:49:46No, I realize that, but I think we have to distinguish this position from the others.
5:50:21Mr. President, I'm worried it has to be casual here.
5:50:25Chairman Seller is planning to introduce legislation to establish a good enough commission to investigate the FBI this week.
5:50:39Was that an option?
5:50:40Was that a plan before you directed that?
5:50:43No.
5:50:44We were waiting for an opportune moment to make this decision.
5:50:51Well, it's been investigated before.
5:50:52We'll see what happens.
5:50:54It's a little late.
5:50:57It's a little late.
5:51:00I must say that I got my clothes as clean as I could.
5:51:03What I'm saying is that I was in Texas the other day.
5:51:07I went to a lot of places in Florida.
5:51:38It's great.
5:51:38I know it's a hard time for you.
5:51:41I mean, you pick up his mind, you look at the television, and you say, my God, this is what he did.
5:51:54And when he comes to say, you end up with a picture of a shark tail swiping around with the antelopes.
5:51:59My view is that we're doing the right thing.
5:52:02It's impressive.
5:52:03And there's stories from...
5:52:06I greatly appreciate it, as, of course, it's the support of some of those sterling fellows in the Democratic side, like Sam Smithers, who stood up strongly against George May on any event.
5:52:18So as long as we've got your support, I believe we're okay.
5:52:22Mr. President, you may have one more problem.
5:52:25You have a bill coming out of our committee which will encompass about 3.9 billion dollars in child development camps, daycare camps.
5:52:38Oh, that's nice.
5:52:40But you know, you should know, it's coming out probably today, maybe tomorrow.
5:52:47I've tried to do some things with it, but I've been beaten with it.
5:52:52Two votes or three votes on my side.
5:52:54You remember I put up.
5:52:55I said we'll have to carry it before.
5:52:57I hope that the House will sit down and do nothing.
5:53:02May I ask, is that tied to the OEO authorization?
5:53:06No, it's the second bill.
5:53:08It's the second bill.
5:53:19Well, Peter, we do appreciate it.
5:53:22I know you have those.
5:53:24You have such a tough debate.
5:53:28I just wowed on that.
5:53:29Anyway, I'm sorry.
5:53:30Those fights are appreciated.
5:53:32Those fights are appreciated.
5:53:35All I can say here is I think we should be greater players than the people that fell there against us.
5:53:42Just get out of here like that.
5:53:44Don't pay it up too much.
5:53:46All right, thank you.

Nixon, Griffin & Smith on Vietnam War and Economic policy

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