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White House tour group on White House tour and Cabinet Room

Saturday, July 1, 1972 · 10:40 AM–10:16 AM ET · Cabinet Room · 42 sec

ParticipantsWhite House tour groupConversation104-004 on Tape 104StartSaturday, July 1, 1972 at 10:40 AMEndFriday, July 21, 1972 at 10:16 AMRecording deviceCabinet RoomSourceNixon Library record for 104-004 ↗

A White House tour group received a guided walkthrough of the Cabinet Room, during which the guide identified key architectural features and office functions. The briefing detailed the seating arrangements for cabinet officers based on departmental seniority and highlighted the nearby locations of the National Security Council and the Vice President’s office. No policy decisions were made during this informal orientation session.

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a White House tour group met in the Cabinet Room of the White House on an unknown date, sometime between 10:40 am on July 1, 1972 and 10:16 am on July 21, 1972. The Cabinet Room taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 104-004 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 104-4

Date: Unknown between July 1 and July 21, 1972
Time: Unknown between 10:40 am, July 1 and 10:16 am, July 21, 1972
Location: Cabinet Room

Unknown people met

     Cabinet Room
          -Uses
          -Seating
                -Seniority of departments

     The President’s residence within the White House

The unknown people left at an unknown time before 10:16 am, July 21, 1972

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This is the cabinet room.
This is the maintenance room of the National Security Council, the domestic council.
This is the vice president offices here.
To the right and left, those two are the cabinet officers by the seniority of their department.
State and Treasury are the two of the oldest, so they're the closest.
It's like housing and urban development.
Well, it's alternate.
For instance, the Secretary of State is at the President's right, and then the Secretary of Treasury being the next oldest is at the Vice President's right.
I believe it's at the President's right.
  • 104-001 10:40 AM · 2 min — Unknown person(s) met in the Cabinet Room of the White House on an unknown date, sometime between 10:40 am on July 1, 1972 and 10:16 am on July 21, 1972.
  • 104-002 10:40 AM · 1 min — a White House tour group met in the Cabinet Room of the White House on an unknown date, sometime between 10:40 am on July 1, 1972 and 10:16 am on July 21, 1972.
  • 104-003 10:40 AM · 1 min — a White House tour group met in the Cabinet Room of the White House on an unknown date, sometime between 10:40 am on July 1, 1972 and 10:16 am on July 21, 1972.
  • 104-005 10:40 AM · 2 min — a White House tour group met in the Cabinet Room of the White House on an unknown date, sometime between 10:40 am on July 1, 1972 and 10:16 am on July 21, 1972.
  • 104-006 10:40 AM · 5 min — Unknown person(s) met in the Cabinet Room of the White House on an unknown date, sometime between 10:40 am on July 1, 1972 and 10:16 am on July 21, 1972.
  • 104-007 10:40 AM · 58 sec — a White House tour group met in the Cabinet Room of the White House on an unknown date, sometime between 10:40 am on July 1, 1972 and 10:16 am on July 21, 1972.
  • 104-014 10:40 AM · 18 min — a White House tour group met in the Cabinet Room of the White House on an unknown date, sometime between 10:40 am on July 1, 1972 and 10:16 am on July 21, 1972.
  • 026-033 11:00 AM · 6 min — President Richard M. Nixon and U. Alexis Johnson talked on the telephone from 11:00 am to 11:12 am.

Conversation 104-004, July 1, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/104-004 (accessed November 2, 2026).