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Conversation 013-040

TapeTape 13StartFriday, October 29, 1971 at 4:55 PMEndFriday, October 29, 1971 at 4:56 PMTape start time01:28:03Tape end time01:28:49ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Whitaker, John C.Recording deviceWhite House Telephone
AI Summary

President Nixon consulted with John C. Whitaker regarding ongoing negotiations with labor leader Thomas W. 'Ted' Gleason. The administration sought to strike a deal that would utilize American ships for Venezuelan oil imports in exchange for a 50-50 shipping arrangement for grain exports to the Soviet Union. Nixon emphasized the importance of the effort, noting the potential political benefits for both foreign policy and domestic agricultural legislation.

Ted GleasonShipping policyVenezuelaSoviet UnionGrain exportsLabor relationsForeign policy
AudioNARA Description

On October 29, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and John C. Whitaker talked on the telephone from 4:55 pm to 4:56 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 013-040 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 13-40

Date: October 29, 1971
Time: 4:55 pm - 4:56 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with John C. Whitaker.
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)




[See Conversation No. 302-18D]

     Thomas W. ("Ted") Gleason
         -Charles W. Colson
         -Laurence H. Silberman
              -James D. Hodgson
         -Negotiations concerning use of US ships
              -Venezuela, Soviet Union
                    -Oil and grain
              -Colson, [Forename unknown] Lincoln
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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Yeah.
Yes, sir.
Hi, John.
How are you getting along on Teddy Gleason?
We're working it pretty hard.
Colson, and we had Colson and Silberman, the people under Hutch, and he's out of town.
And we're trying to cut a deal, essentially, whereby on our next oil imports out of Venezuela, they'd go on American bottoms in return for getting the 50-50 deal on grain to Russia.
Now, that's complicated, and Colson and Lincoln are working on that right now.
Well, right, but you're pushing it with everything you've got, huh?
Yes, sir.
You know this is a good one.
Yeah, I'm good.
It pays off foreign policy and with the farm bill.
Right.
Fine job.
Okay.
Thanks.
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