Conversation: 302-018
Prev: 302-017 Next: 302-019Start Date: Friday, October 29, 1971 7:20 PM
End Date: Friday, October 29, 1971 9:16 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ehrlichman, John D.; White House operator; Shultz, George P.; Sanchez, Manolo; [Unknown person(s)]; Whitaker, John C.Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:42:36
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:32:30
NARA Description:
On October 29, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, White House operator, George P. Shultz, Manolo Sanchez, unknown person(s), and John C. Whitaker met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:20 pm to 5:16 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 302-018 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 302-18
Date: October 29, 1971
Time: 3:20 pm - 5:16 pm
Location: Executive Office Building
The President met with John D. Ehrlichman.
The President's previous telephone call to Nelson A. Rockefeller
-Robert H. Finch's forthcoming trip to Latin America
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
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Conv. No. 302-18 (cont.)
Robert L. Kunzig
-Role in administration
-Possible judgeship
-The President’s view
-The President's schedule
-Role in administration
Judicial appointments
-Confirmation possibilities
-Kunzig
-General Services Administration [GSA]
-Possible appointment
Louis P. Harris poll
-Charles W. Colson's conversation with the President
-Edmund S. Muskie
-Press coverage
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 54s ]
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Eugene C. Patterson
-Forthcoming meeting with Ehrlichman
-Activities
-Forthcoming meeting with Ehrlichman
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Tape Subject Log
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Conv. No. 302-18 (cont.)
Washington Post
-Staff changes
-Paul R. Ignatius
-Benjamin C. Bradlee
-Edward M. Kennedy
Patterson
-Forthcoming meeting with Ehrlichman
The President's People's Republic of China [PRC] initiative
-Effect on colleges
Harris poll
-Muskie
-Youth
-Statement on black Vice President
-Effect
Patterson
Washington Post
-Staff changes
-Bradlee
-Patterson
Kunzig
Welfare Reform [HR 1]
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
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[Duration: 57s ]
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Conv. No. 302-18 (cont.)
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[National Security]
[Duration: 53s ]
INTELLIGENCE
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Welfare Reform [HR 1]
-Russell B. Long's activities
-Michael J. Mansfield
-Abraham A. Ribicoff's group
-Program
-Elliot L. Richardson's reaction
-Ehrlichman's conversation with Richardson
-The President's possible veto
Government reorganization
-Department of Community Development
-Prospects
-George W. Romney, John A. Volpe, James D. Hodgson
-Clifford M. Hardin
-Egil G. (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.'s memorandum
-The President's schedule
-Romney, Volpe, Hodgson, Krogh, Ehrlichman
-Possible activities of Colson and Clark MacGregor
Hardin
-Possible successor
-Clayton K. Yeutter
-Reactions of Clarence D. Palmby and J. Phil Campbell
-Mandate
-Palmby
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Conv. No. 302-18 (cont.)
-Requirements
-Donald E. Johnson
Personnel
-William H. Rehnquist
-Future Supreme Court appointments
-Woman
-William French Smith
-William O. Douglas
-Rehnquist
-Confirmation activities
-Leonard Garment's conversation with Ehrlichman
-Views
-Lewis F. Powell
-Confirmation activities
-Birch Bayh
-Story, October 29, 1971 regarding finances
Lawyers' compensation
-Richmond
-New York
-Seattle
Personnel
-Future Supreme Court appointments
-Douglas, Thurgood Marshall
-Young man in Philadelphia
-Black woman in Chicago
-Warren E. Burger's possible reaction
-Rehnquist
-Current federal judges
-David R. Young, John W. Dean III
Research and development
-Jeb Stuart Magruder
-Desalinization
-Technology
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Conv. No. 302-18 (cont.)
-Cost
-William E. Kriegsman, Office of Science and Technology
-Unknown man's activities
Patrick J. Buchanan
-Memorandum
-Conversation with John P. Sears
-Views on Value added tax [VAT]
-Proposal regarding property tax and education
-Aid to parochial schools
Aid to parochial schools
VAT
-Buchanan's view
-Real estate tax
-Education
Presidency
-Popular expectations
-Blacks, environment, education
-The President's handling
-The President's handling
-The President's opponents' views
VAT
-Buchanan's view
-Federal budget
-Education
-Caspar W. Weinberger, George P. Shultz
-Possible cuts
-Conversations with Ehrlichman and Edwin L. Harper
-Balance
-Richard A. Moore's analysis
-Value to Catholics
-Knights of Columbus
-Peter J. Brennan
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Conv. No. 302-18 (cont.)
-Polls
-William F. (“Billy”) Graham
-The President's schedule
-John Cardinal McIntyre
Research and development
-Cost
-Magruder
-Dr. Edward E. David
-Massachusetts Institute of Technology [MIT]
-Use of funds
Urban development
-Ehrlichman's previous meeting with the President and John R. Price
-Financing
-Congressional prospects
-John F. Kennedy's accomplishments
-Lyndon B. Johnson's accomplishments
-The President's accomplishments
The President's administration
-Compared to previous administrations
-Accomplishments
-Environment
-Revenue sharing
-Government reorganization
-Health coverage
-1972 election
VAT
-Buchanan
-Analysis of VAT
-Charles W. Colson's views
-Political benefit
-John B. Connally's views
-John N. Mitchell's views
Federal budget
-Political concerns
-Shultz's budget review
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Conv. No. 302-18 (cont.)
National Aeronautics and Space Administration [NASA]
-Administration
-Magruder's views
Cabinet
-Henry A. Kissinger
-William P. Rogers
-Volpe
-Schedule
-Italy
-Airplane
-Transportation Department
-Lyndon B. Johnson's efforts
Unknown committee
Supreme Court appointments
-Confirmation hearings
-Rehnquist
-Powell
-Federal Bureau of Investigations [FBI] investigation
J. Edgar Hoover
-Term in office
United Nations [UN] vote on PRC
-Hugh Scott
-Israel
-South Africa
Health of Stewart J.O. And Joseph W. Alsop
Stewart Alsop
-Conversation with Ehrlichman
-VAT
-Connally
-Rowland Evans and Robert D. Novak's story
-Spiro T. Agnew's statement to Samuel L. Devine's group
The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 3:20 pm and
4:10 pm.
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Tape Subject Log
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Conv. No. 302-18 (cont.)
[Conversation No. 302-18A]
[See Conversation No. 13-37]
Request for a call to George P. Shultz
[End of telephone conversation]
Agnew
-Statement to Devine's group
-1972 ticket
-Alsop's view
The President talked with George P. Shultz between 4:10 pm and 4:11 pm.
[Conversation No. 302-18B]
[See Conversation No. 13-38]
[End of telephone conversation]
Agnew
-Alsop's view
Stewart Alsop
-Views regarding Connally
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 4:11 pm.
Dog
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 4:17 pm.
Stewart Alsop
-Conversation with Ehrlichman
-Lyndon B. Johnson's relationship with John F. Kennedy and Robert F.
Kennedy
-Joseph Alsop
Rogers
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Tape Subject Log
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Conv. No. 302-18 (cont.)
-The President's conversation with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Forthcoming visit to PRC
-Kissinger's views
-Kissinger's views
Johnson's relationship with John Kennedy and Robert Kennedy
Stewart Alsop
-Conversation with Ehrlichman
-Connally
-Johnson's relationship with John Kennedy and Robert Kennedy
-Views regarding John Kennedy
Robert Kennedy
Edward Kennedy
-Africa
George P. Shultz entered at 4:15 pm.
Request for Manolo Sanchez
Ehrlichman left at 4:17 pm.
Rockefeller
-Forthcoming telephone call from Shultz
-Finch's forthcoming trip to Latin America
-Import surcharge
-Conversation with the President
-Canadian negotiations
Import surcharge
-Japanese negotiations
-Timing of Finch's forthcoming trip
Finch's forthcoming trip to Latin America
-Postponement
-Rockefeller's previous trips
-Timing
-Rogers
-Shultz's possible conversation with Mitchell
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 302-18 (cont.)
-Import surcharge
-Itinerary
-Luis Echeverria
-Connally
Arthur F. Burns
International economy
-France
-Burns's view
An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 4:17 pm.
Refreshments
The unknown person left at an unknown time before 4:55 pm.
Shultz's schedule
-Peter G. Peterson
-Kissinger
-Europe
-Burns
-Georges J.R. Pompidou
Common Market
-Great Britain
Quadriad meeting
-Shultz's forthcoming memorandum for the President
-Peter M. Flanigan
-Paul W. McCracken
-Connally
-Burns
Policy development
-Germany
-Canada
-Latin America
Latin America
-Finch's forthcoming trip
-The President's conversation with Rockefeller
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 302-18 (cont.)
-Import surcharge
-Canadian negotiations
Burns
-Conversation with Shultz
-Meeting with the President, October 29, 1971
-Statistics
-Conversation with the President, October 29, 1971
-Federal Reserve
-Conversation with Shultz
-Milton Friedman's views of policies
-Role in administration
-Money supply
-Interest rates
-Schedule
-Quadriad
International economy
-Peterson's role in administration
-The President's schedule
-Shultz, proposed meeting with Peterson and Connally
-Kissinger
-Peterson
-Connally
-Paul A. Volcker
-Peterson, Connally, Shultz
-Connally's views
-Japan
-Undeveloped nations
-Europe
-Canada
-Europe
-Germany
-France
-Kissinger
-Willy F. Brandt
-Pompidou
-Kissinger
Burns
-Role in administration
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Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 302-18 (cont.)
-Money supply
-Interest rates
-Views on national economy
Federal Reserve
-Interest rates
-Appointments
-Unknown man
-Burns's views
-Connally's views
-Earl Cox [?]
-Position with World Bank
Herbert Stein
-University of Virginia
-Possible role in administration
Federal Reserve
-Appointments
-Burns's views
-Stein
-Law firms' management
-Hospitals' management
-Stein
-Burns
-Money supply
Memorandum from the President
-Shultz's preparation
Peterson
-Treasury Department
Budget review
-Weinberger
-Defense Department
-California
-Timing
-General revenue sharing
The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 4:11 pm and
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Conv. No. 302-18 (cont.)
4:55 pm.
[Conversation No. 302-18C]
[See Conversation No. 13-39]
Request for a call to John C. Whitaker
[End of telephone conversation]
George Meany
The President talked with John C. Whitaker between 4:55 pm and 4:56 pm.
[Conversation No. 302-18D]
[See Conversation No. 13-40]
[End of telephone conversation]
Soviet grain deal
-Shultz's meeting with Colson and Whitaker
-Longshoremen's action
-New Orleans
-Injunction
Meany
-Goals
-Pay Board action on wage contracts
Pay Board
-Possible action on wage contracts
-Arnold R. Weber
-Meany's views
-Effect of freeze
-British experience
-Meany's views
-Friedman's article in New York Times, October 29, 1971
-Meany's views
-Shultz's forthcoming conversation with Weber
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Conv. No. 302-18 (cont.)
Price Commission and Pay Board
-Operation
-Importance
-Productivity
-Collective bargaining
National economy
-Profits
-Burns's view
-Industrial plant
-Build up during 1960's
-Age
-Inventories
-Consumer spending
-Polls
-The President's forthcoming memorandum
The President's schedule
-Shultz, Josip Broz Tito
Tito
The President and Shultz left at 5:16 pm.