Nixon White House TapesTape 132 › Conversation 132-004

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on Camp David

Thursday, May 18, 1972 · 12:00 AM–11:49 PM ET · Camp David Study Table

Participants[Unknown person(s)]Conversation132-004 onTape 132 (tape position 00:02:52–00:03:30)StartThursday, May 18, 1972 at 12:00 AMEndTuesday, June 6, 1972 at 11:49 PMRecording deviceCamp David Study TableSourceNixon Library record for 132-004 ↗

An unidentified male discusses a building maintenance or construction issue with an individual identified as Morales. The dialogue is brief, repetitive, and informal, focusing on concerns regarding potential fire hazards or related structural problems at the Camp David facility. No administrative decisions or substantive policy actions are reached during this exchange.

  • Camp David
  • Building maintenance
  • Facility infrastructure
  • Fire safety
  • Morales

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3:05No one would know all this down there.
3:07I don't think down here would make a smelly-ass fire.
3:13In this house.
3:14I know it.
3:14I know it.
3:15I know it.
3:18I know it.
3:19I know it.
3:20I know it.
3:22I know it.
3:22I know it.
3:23I know it.

Unknown person(s) talked on the telephone at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 12:00 am on May 18, 1972 and 11:49 pm on June 6, 1972. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 132-004 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 132-4

Date: Unknown between May 18, and June 6, 1972
Time: Unknown between 12:00 am, May 18 and 11:49 pm, June 6
Location: Camp David Study Table

An unknown man talked with an unknown man.

     [Forename unknown] Morales [sp?]
          -Problem with building
  • 132-001 12:00 AM · 43 sec — Bill Beckman and unknown person(s) talked on the telephone at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 12:00 am on May 18, 1972 and 11:49 pm on June 6, 1972.
  • 132-002 12:00 AM · 47 sec — Bill Beckman and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 12:00 am on May 18, 1972 and 11:49 pm on June 6, 1972.
  • 132-003 12:00 AM · 1 min — Bill Beckman and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 12:00 am on May 18, 1972 and 11:49 pm on June 6, 1972.
  • 132-005 12:00 AM · 47 sec — Bill Beckman and unknown person(s) talked on the telephone at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 12:00 am on May 18, 1972 and 11:49 pm on June 6, 1972.
  • 132-006 12:00 AM · 52 sec — Bill Beckman and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 12:00 am on May 18, 1972 and 11:49 pm on June 6, 1972.
  • 132-007 12:00 AM · 2 min — Bill Beckman and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 12:00 am on May 18, 1972 and 11:49 pm on June 6, 1972.
  • 132-008 12:00 AM · 31 sec — Bill Beckman and unknown person(s) talked on the telephone at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 12:00 am on May 18, 1972 and 11:49 pm on June 6, 1972.
  • 132-009 12:00 AM · 13 sec — Bill Beckman and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 12:00 am on May 18, 1972 and 11:49 pm on June 6, 1972.

Conversation 132-004, May 18, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/132-004 (accessed September 18, 2026).