Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 949 › Conversation 949-009
Nixon, Bland & McClennan on America Burning report and fire prevention
Thursday, July 12, 1973 · 4:25 PM–4:30 PM ET · Oval Office · 8 min
AI Summary
President Nixon met with Richard E. Bland, W. Howard McClennan, and other members of the National Commission on Fire Prevention and Control to receive their report, titled "America Burning." The discussion focused on shifting national fire policy from suppression to prevention and addressed the risks posed by forest fires and residential fire hazards. Following the formal presentation, the President concluded the meeting by exchanging pleasantries and sharing anecdotes regarding his college football experiences.
- America Burning report
- fire prevention
- fire safety
- forest fires
- football
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NARA Description
On July 12, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Richard E. Bland, W. Howard McClennan, Howard D. Tipton, Dana G. Mead, Walter D. Scott, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:25 pm to 4:30 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 949-009 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 949-9
Date: July 12, 1973
Time: 4:25 pm - 4:30 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Richard E. Bland, W. Howard McClennan, Howard D. Tipton, Dana G.
Mead, and Walter D. Scott. The White House photographer was present at the beginning of the
meeting.
Introductions
-25-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Conversation No. 949-9 (cont’d)
Arrangements for photograph
Presentation of report entitled America Burning to President
Volunteer firemen
-State College, Pennsylvania
Chancellor of Pennsylvania State University
-Cancer
Volunteer firemen
-Fires in California
-Rolling Hills, California
-President’s friend’s house
Report
-Forest fires
-Legislation
-Program cost
-Fire prevention compared to fire suppression
-Work with Richard Dale [?]
-Effectiveness
-Photographs
Presentation of gifts by President
-Cuff links
-Girlfriend, secretary, wife
Weather
Forest fires
-President’s travels
-Silverado, California
-Cigarettes
Fireplaces
-Report
-26-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Conversation No. 949-9 (cont’d)
-Safety
-President’s use
Football
-Unknown man’s experience
-Southern California
-Redlands University
-Cornerback [?]
-Jack F. Kemp
-President’s experience at Whittier College
-Redlands University
-Ben Sheehan [?]
-Coach
-Thanksgiving Day game
-University of Southern California-Notre Dame football game
-Knute Rockney [?]
-Notre Dame’s 23-game winning streak
-Johnny Baker’s field goal
Redlands University
-Number of students
-Compared to Whittier
-Unknown man’s experience
-Weight
-Cornerback [?]
Bland, et al., left at 4:30 pm.Also recorded on July 12, 1973
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Cite this conversation
Conversation 949-009, July 12, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/949-009 (accessed October 10, 2026).