Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 153 › Conversation 153-057

Nixon phone call with Camp David Operator on Ronald Ziegler and Camp David

Saturday, November 18, 1972 · 7:45 AM–9:39 AM ET · Camp David Study Table · 14 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Camp David OperatorConversation153-057 on Tape 153StartSaturday, November 18, 1972 at 7:45 AMEndSaturday, November 18, 1972 at 9:39 AMRecording deviceCamp David Study TableSourceNixon Library record for 153-057 ↗ · National Archives Catalog, NAID 417175709 ↗

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On November 18, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 7:45 am and 9:39 am. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 153-057 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 153-57

Date: November 18, 1972
Time: Unknown between 7:45 am and 9:39 am
Location: Camp David Study Table

The President talked with the Camp David operator.

[See Conversation No. 226-30]

       Request for a call to Ronald L. Ziegler

[This is the original beginning of conversation No. 153-058, which has been merged with
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                                                            Conversation No. 153-56 (cont’d)

conversation 153-057.]

The President talked with Ronald L. Ziegler.

[See Conversation No. 226-31]

       Ziegler’s recent telephone call to the President
             -Cancellation
             -Purpose
                   -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                   -Sunday newspapers

       Ziegler’s forthcoming press conference
             -The President’s schedule
                   -Reorganization of plans
                         -Dictation
                         -Budget cuts
                   -Return to Washington, DC
                         -Timing
                         -Return to Camp David
                               -Timing
                         -Reason
                               -Clothing
                               -Dinner for family
                         -Return to Camp David
                               -Timing
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                   -Camp David
                         -Schedule of appointments
                   -Meeting with Henry A. Kissinger
                         -Completion
                   -Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty [SALT] II
                         -The President’s instructions
                   -Vietnam negotiations
                         -The President’s instructions
                               -Paris
                               -Communications with Kissinger
                                      -Cable
                                            -Timing
                                      -Telephone
                               -Paperwork
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                                          Conversation No. 153-58 (cont’d)

-SALT II
-Trip to Washington, DC
      -Purpose
            -Gathering materials
            -White House staff matters
            -Dinner with family
            -Clothes
            -SALT II
            -Vietnam negotiations
      -Location
            -Executive Office Building [EOB]
            -White House
                  -Lincoln Sitting Room
                        -Vietnam negotiations
                               -Paris
                        -SALT II negotiations
                               -November 21, 1972
      -Camp David
      -White House staff members
      -Return to Camp David
      -SALT II
            -The President’s interest
      -Vietnam negotiations
            -The President’s interest
            -Importance
            -The President’s work
      -Meetings
            -Scheduling
            -Published meetings
            -Kissinger
                  -Contacts with the President
            -White House staff
      -Vietnam negotiations
            -Substantive differences
            -Technical details
                  -Importance
                        -The President’s role
      -SALT II
      -Meetings
            -Scheduling
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           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                       Conversation No. 153-58 (cont’d)

                       -Published meetings
                       -Kissinger
                              -Contacts with the President
                       -White House staff
                 -Vietnam negotiations
                       -Substantive difference
                       -Technical details
                              -Importance
                                   -The President’s role
                       -Settlement agreement
                              -The President’s role
                                   -Kissinger’s forthcoming trip to Paris

Second term reorganization
     -Press relations
           -November 17, 1972
     -Ziegler’s forthcoming press conference
           -William P. Rogers’s tenure as Secretary of State
                  -Ziegler’s conversations
                        -Haldeman
           -Melvin R. Laird
                  -Resignation
           -Changes in staff
                  -Timing
                  -Procedures
           -The President’s schedule
                  -Camp David
     -Press relations
           -Reaction to the President’s actions
                  -[Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon’s, Julie Nixon Eisenhower’s, Tricia Nixon
                   Cox’s concern
                  -1972 election
                  -[Washington, DC]
                        -Bureaucracy
                  -Public
                  -Bureaucracy
                  -Washington Post, Washington Star
                  -Public
                  -The President’s November 17, 1972 meetings
                        -Cabinet
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      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                 Conversation No. 153-58 (cont’d)

-Ziegler’s press conference
      -Reorganization plan
             -Departments
             -Congressional guidelines
             -Personnel
             -The President’s areas of concentration
                   -Personnel
                   -Structure
      -Departures
             -Charles W. Colson’s tenure
                   -Colson’s concern
                   -Herbert G. Klein
                   -Robert H. Finch
                   -Donald H. Rumsfeld
                   -Appearance of firing
                         -Public impact
      -White House staff
             -Individual considerations
-Announcements
      -Timing
-Press relations
      -Ziegler’s briefings
             -Reaction to the President’s actions
             -White House staff
                   -Reenergizing administration
      -The President’s November 17, 1972 meetings
      -Order of meetings
             -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
                   -John B. Connally
                   -Rogers
                   -Cabinet
-Announcements
      -Timing
      -Monday schedule
      -Meeting with Cabinet
             -Order
                   -Treasury, Defense Departments
                   -Availability
                         -Richard G. Kleindienst
                         -George W. Romney
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                                                       Conversation No. 153-58 (cont’d)

                             -John A. Volpe
                             -Kleindienst
      -Press relations
            -The President’s November 17, 1972 meetings
            -Retentions
                   -Impressions

Ziegler’s location

Press relations
      -Trailer at Camp David
             -The President’s role
             -The President’s trip to Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, September 9, 1972
             -Function
                   -Briefing room
             -Reaction
                   -Story

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  • 226-026 7:45 AM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 7:45 am and 9:39 am.
  • 226-027 7:45 AM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles G. ("Bebe") Rebozo met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 7:45 am and 9:39 am.
  • 226-028 7:45 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 7:45 am and 9:39 am.
  • 226-029 7:45 AM · 42 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, unknown person(s), and Manolo Sanchez met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 7:45 am and 9:39 am.
  • 226-030 7:45 AM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 7:45 am and 9:39 am.
  • 153-058 9:39 AM · 18 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone at Camp David from 9:39 am to 9:57 am.

Conversation 153-057, November 18, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives (NAID 417175709). Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/153-057 (accessed November 2, 2026).